# It's always a fucking Pit Bull **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775 "2016-07-24T14:41:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/283 "2019-12-07T08:27:10Z")
There are no bad dogs, only bad owners. One of my old neighbors had a lovely fawn-colored pittie he’d rescued from a scumbag. He was a young black man, so I cannot imagine what he dealt with. One of my feral kitties was used as a bait animal and came running to me once he escaped. Might have been the same place that abused both animals. That poor doggie was _terrified_ of everything. And her daddy? God, there was nothing he didn’t know about doggie psychology, but there he was, a young black man with a pitt. A young black man who loved Shakespeare and spy novels and who could talk about murder mysteries on my stoop forever. I’m sure to some people he was a thug with his awful dog…and I was a crazy cat lady. That feral kitty, by the way, wraps his arms around my arm and puts his big ole ex-tomcat face in my hand when he sleeps. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/284 "2019-12-07T12:51:46Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > If my dog doesn’t like you, _ **I** _ don’t like you. Our eldest dog, Ella, had a hard early life. We adopted her 10 years ago when she was four. It took a couple of years of hard work to get her turned around, but she is now a “good girl”. The only peculiarity we cannot break her of is her absolute hatred of stereotypic “little old ladies”. She tolerates kids, men, and women. But a stooped, grey-haired woman over the age of 70 makes her want to kill. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/285 "2019-12-07T20:33:20Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > If my dog doesn’t like you, _ **I** _ don’t like you. This is purely anecdotal, but it seems every time one of my animals disliked someone, that person always turned out to be no damn good. It’s like they can smell it on them or something. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/286 "2019-12-09T18:33:37Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Hope no one missed [this heartwarming Christmas story](https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/88-year-old-vet-uses-lawn-ornament-to-save-child-from-pit-bull/). > > I strongly suspect it didn’t really involve a pit bull. More likely it was a chihuahua. You’re using the _New York Pos_t as a cite? ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/287 "2019-12-11T06:34:53Z")
> [@Kovitlac](#): > > Because dogs often referred to as ‘pit bulls’ are actually 4-5 different breeds, including the Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Terrier, American Bulldog, Boston Terrier and more. Comparatively very few people can actually recognize a legitimate Pit Bull Terrier. > > My city is looking to get rid of their 10 or so year ban on Pit Bulls, and I couldn’t be happier. It’s such a stupid ban. Even more idiotic when you know that the guy who pushed it so hard had a Golden Lab that bit a kid, was taken by Animal Control, and subsequently vanished and hasn’t been seen since. Fuck that guy. Who vanished, the dog or the owner? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/288 "2019-12-11T16:37:20Z")
I have two dogs - an English Mastiff - brindle - about 14\50ish pounds named Luna (support animal) and a 7 pound Chihuahua cross rescue, Keke. Keke is ridiculously cute, and everyone wants to pick her up. Luna is huge and drooly, and people are intimidated by her. Guess who is more likely to try and rip your face off? Now, Chihuahuas are generally a bit twitchy and nervous, but she was also a street dog for the first seven months of her life, and Luna was brought up with love and cuddles. ---
**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/289 "2019-12-11T21:17:57Z")
Honestly, I would try to avoid putting any of my body parts close to your mastiff’s mouth myself. I know someone with mastiffs, and know that they are very sweet dogs that try to avoid stepping on people, but the drool!!! I like to stand at their sides and rub their ears, this usually allows me to leave the encounter with fairly dry shoes. I volunteer for a pet rescue group (on the cat side) and we are constantly taking in “pit bull” puppies because the ignorant fuck who owned the bitch didn’t have her fixed because he was going to breed her and make lots of money. When the plan doesn’t work, they want to get rid of the puppies because they don’t want to feed/vet them, no room, etc. The most idiotic ones argue about our policy of taking the offspring, but having the parent fixed and returned because they might want to breed her again with a different stud. From what I have been told about these pups, its never a fucking pit bull. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/290 "2019-12-11T21:25:16Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > I volunteer for a pet rescue group (on the cat side) and we are constantly taking in “pit bull” puppies because the ignorant fuck who owned the bitch didn’t have her fixed because he was going to breed her and make lots of money. When the plan doesn’t work, they want to get rid of the puppies because they don’t want to feed/vet them, no room, etc. The most idiotic ones argue about our policy of taking the offspring, but having the parent fixed and returned because they might want to breed her again with a different stud. Seems to me that the _really_ idiotic ones are those who don’t have any buyers for the offspring lined up prior to breeding. My SO’s brother was a breeder of Rat Terriers. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/291 "2019-12-11T21:50:41Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > You’re using the _New York Post_ as a cite? Yes. It was one of literally dozens of sites reporting the story. You can also find it on [CNN](http://cnn.com/2019/11/26/us/ohio-dog-attack-christmas-ornament-trnd/index.html), [ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/US/korean-war-veteran-88-rescues-girl-pitbull-attack/story?id=67312700), the Associated Press, USA Today, and many newspaper and TV news department websites around the country, including the major dailies in Ohio. Attacking the bona fides of a story based on where it appears without bothering to check on whether it was reported elsewhere is the height of laziness. > [@SteveG1](#): > > This is purely anecdotal, but it seems every time one of my animals disliked someone, that person always turned out to be no damn good. > > It’s like they can smell it on them or something. It’s usually the fault of the person who gets bitten. "Lots of people reported our Airedale to the police but my father held a municipal office at the time and was on friendly terms with the police. Even so, the cops had been out a couple of times—once when Muggs bit Mrs. Rufus Sturtevant and again when he bit Lieutenant- Governor Malloy—but mother told them that it hadn’t been Muggs’ fault but the fault of the people who were bitten. “When he starts for them, they scream,” she explained, “and that excites him.” [http://bclearningnetwork.com/LOR/media/EN11/Forums/Dog\_Bit\_People.pdf](http://bclearningnetwork.com/LOR/media/EN11/Forums/Dog_Bit_People.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/292 "2019-12-15T16:13:21Z")
thanks for all the confirming my bias insults. There are dogs worth having. There are dogs who never show the slightest signs of being dangerous who suddenly bite and kill kids and old people. There are people who own dogs who can control them, but there are far more who let them do as they please, even let them roam around without any concern. We trust dogs so much that people don’t realize how dangerous and destructive they can sometimes be. Besides, there are millions in shelters. What purpose do they serve? they are dogs. “Poof” Just kill any dog that shows any signs of antisocial behavior toward any human, and then keep the rest. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/293 "2019-12-15T16:57:04Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > thanks for all the confirming my bias insults. > > There are dogs worth having. There are dogs who never show the slightest signs of being dangerous who suddenly bite and kill kids and old people. There are people who own dogs who can control them, but there are far more who let them do as they please, even let them roam around without any concern. > > We trust dogs so much that people don’t realize how dangerous and destructive they can sometimes be. > > Besides, there are millions in shelters. What purpose do they serve? > > they are dogs. > > “Poof” > > Just kill any dog that shows any signs of antisocial behavior toward any human, and then keep the rest. Bullshit. Dogs in shelters have value as people can adopt them as pets. Just because they’re in shelters doesn’t mean their lives should be thrown away. I have always adopted my dogs. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/294 "2019-12-15T17:56:10Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > Besides, there are millions in shelters. What purpose do they serve? > > they are dogs. Originally linked in post #257: > [@](#): > > When Brad Croft was introduced to a group of abandoned shelter dogs in Kirby, Texas, one pup in particular caught his eye. > > A sheepish, but strong-looking pit bull named Kiah was in the corner, recovering from a brutal injury to her skull. He was told the abused dog was hit in the head with a hammer shortly before she arrived at the shelter. > > :snip: > > Croft, operations director for UniversalK9 – an organization that trains dogs as well as members of police and SWAT teams to become a successful K-9 Unit without the high costs – decided to take the dog home to San Antonio to see if she could make it as a police dog. > > At first, Kiah was hard to train. She didn’t understand what she was supposed to do. But soon it was clear to Croft: she was a fast learner. > > :snip: > > Now, nearly two years later, Kiah works alongside her partner, Officer Justin Bruzgul, as a narcotics and missing persons detection dog. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/295 "2019-12-15T18:03:42Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > That sort of goes to the point that mean Pits are owned by assholes who encourage them to be mean. > > Go Google “Pit Bulls with kittens.” NO. NO. Do not google that. That’s how I wound up with a grumpy old man cat. Poor old guy broke several teeth defending himself and still wound up with forty stitches. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/296 "2019-12-16T18:19:27Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Attacking the bona fides of a story based on where it appears without bothering to check on whether it was reported elsewhere is the height of laziness. Nah, it’s just garden-variety laziness. The height of laziness is persisting in prejudice despite authoritative cites from dog experts like the [American Veterinary Medical Association](https://www.avma.org/resources/pet-owners/why-breed-specific-legislation-not-answer), its [Journal](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24299544), the [National Canine Research Council](http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/08/prweb549276.htm), the CDC, and [many](https://www.dogwise.com/ebook-the-pit-bull-placebo-the-media-myths-and-politics-of-canine-aggression/) [others](https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/josh-shaffer/article82711652.html). Hatred of pit bulls is like belief in chemtrails or the flat earth – what experts and people with experience say doesn’t matter; the believer persists in feeling smugly satisfied they have secret knowledge others lack. [Reasons people want to believe things that aren’t true](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0963721417718261) {warning - .pdf] ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/297 "2019-12-16T21:03:24Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Huh, I would have thought that they would have shut that down after discovering it. So, because some assholes were making dogs rape each other, that somehow sullies the entire victimized breed? Okay. > If they actually managed to “breed in” aggression to these dogs that they were breeding for a fighting ring, then mayhap that line should be allowed to die off. But I could do the same exact thing with retrievers or poodles. If I start up a Poodle fighting ring, breeding my own fighters, does that somehow make all poodles suddenly suspect? > > The way you phrased it, it sounded like you were talking about a common and condoned practice, not a practice that got people sent to jail for performing. (along with pretty much every dog owner feeling that the sentence Micheal Vick got being way too light.) Yes, if all the same traits and bad pub that Pit Bulls get happened with Poodles, then yes it would be the same. But alas Poodles aren’t Pit Bulls ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/298 "2019-12-16T21:11:23Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > No, a spammer bumped it, then was banned and their posts deleted. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > I suspect that you really meant a different “s” word. 🙂 I was skimming and read “A spaniel bumped it…” so my first thought was _"Who’s_ a _smartypants_ dog?" ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/299 "2019-12-16T21:16:36Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > Yes, if all the same traits and bad pub that Pit Bulls get happened with Poodles, then yes it would be the same. > > But alas Poodles aren’t Pit Bulls Do you know any standard poodles? ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/300 "2019-12-17T10:24:51Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > Classic confirmation bias. You think it’s always a Pit Bull because you expect it always to be a Pit Bull. For a very long time, I always thought that every time I washed my car, it would rain. Then one day I realized that when it rains and I had not previously washed my car, I paid little or no attention to that. But when it rained shortly after I washed my car, that event burned a spot in my memory. In other words, I may have tended to belief there was some correlation between raining and washing my car when none existed because I just remembered the times when both events happened and did not remember when only one of those happened. I can’t be certain what the truth is. But I seriously have to doubt the universe pays attention to my washing my car and then makes it rain shortly afterwards. That just doesn’t make any sense. But as far as pit bulls go, I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/301 "2019-12-17T13:48:19Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Do you know any standard poodles? A very under appreciated breed. I’ve never met a standard poodle I didn’t like. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775/302 "2019-12-17T14:10:02Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > A very under appreciated breed. I’ve never met a standard poodle I didn’t like. Yeah wonderful, smart dogs. The oldest dog I ever knew was a 19 year old standard poodle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-always-a-fucking-pit-bull/760775.md?page=16)