# It's as if Daylight Savings Time never ended

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 4, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890 "2012-11-04T22:24:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/1 "2012-11-04T22:24:06Z")

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Because it hasn’t, according to my cheap-shit Virgin Mobile phone. And the bank sign across from my barber shop. And the people in the barber shop who left work an hour early.

I can forgive the bank clock because there is nobody there on a Sunday to reset it. I can forgive the people in the barber shop because they are lazy and stupid and it’s a very nice Autumn Sunday. But a cell phone company should have its shit together enough to know what fucking time it is thirteen hours after it changed. I was forced to listen to WGN radio for ten whole minutes to be sure that I had fallen back on the correct night. :mad:

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### Author: ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/2 "2012-11-04T22:27:37Z")

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On the other hand, I have an old WWVB controlled clock that set itself to daylight savings time last week since it pre-dates the 2nd Bush term.

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### Author: ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/3 "2012-11-04T22:59:32Z")

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I hoped that this was going to be the bi-annual Daylight Savings Time rant. Close enough - I hate changing the clocks arbitrarily twice a year, and I think I always will.

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### Author: ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/4 "2012-11-04T23:27:13Z")

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if the clock is set by WWVB then it should be accurate though your clock may not have good reception and not get a signal to set from for part of a day.

the clock may have a function, maybe switchable, to auto switch time on the dates. it may have to old dates.

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### Author: ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/5 "2012-11-04T23:42:32Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I hoped that this was going to be the bi-annual Daylight Savings Time rant. Close enough - I hate changing the clocks arbitrarily twice a year, and I think I always will.

yes

the time change SUCKS! :mad:

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### Author: ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/6 "2012-11-04T23:57:06Z")

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Don’t feel bad about VM. Sprint changed back last weekend and had to scramble madly to get the time reset.

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### Author: ![Crab\_Rangoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Crab\_Rangoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crab_Rangoon)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/7 "2012-11-05T00:33:45Z")

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I’m just psyched to be able to see dawn before I go into work tomorrow.

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### Author: ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/8 "2012-11-05T00:59:37Z")

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My phone didn’t update either until I turned it off. Not ideal, but not disastrous.

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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/9 "2012-11-05T01:24:39Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Not ideal, but not disastrous.

Idiotic, but it worked. Thanks! I need to pick up my wife at 3AM and was hoping to use my phone as a backup alarm for the two I already use (I switch off my ears when I sleep sometimes) but was afraid it would get reset while I was asleep.

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### Author: ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/10 "2012-11-05T03:49:43Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I hoped that this was going to be the bi-annual Daylight Savings Time rant. Close enough - I hate changing the clocks arbitrarily twice a year, and I think I always will.

You mean the ones where some idiot points out that it’s “Daylight Saving Time” rather than “Daylight Saving **s** Time”?

Wait …

:smack:

😉

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### Author: ![Recusant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Recusant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recusant)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/11 "2012-11-05T07:01:35Z")

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Speaking on behalf of Arizona, Hawaii, Hobbes, and all the rest of us, let me just say- the real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

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### Author: ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/12 "2012-11-05T07:30:43Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I hoped that this was going to be the bi-annual Daylight Savings Time rant. Close enough - I hate changing the clocks arbitrarily twice a year, and I think I always will.

I know you meant “changing _the time on_ the clocks”, but [could there be something](http://wondermark.com/883/) in what you actually said?

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### Author: ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/13 "2012-11-05T08:37:46Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I can forgive the people in the barber shop because they are lazy and stupid

That’s mighty decent of ya, feller, mighty decent.

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### Author: ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/14 "2012-11-05T11:27:19Z")

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The clock in the family room is wrong now, because it’s so high up and awkwardly placed that I need to get up on a ladder and reach precariously over to get at it. Last spring, it took me three weeks to get around to it. And the battery died in the kitchen clock, so it’s permanently 8:45 in there. Time is relative in my house, I guess.

The only clocks that _really_ matter are the alarm clocks.

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### Author: ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/15 "2012-11-05T12:55:23Z")

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Well, that and the one on the DVR, which thankfully changes on it’s own because I’m pretty sure I’d be at a loss.

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### Author: ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/16 "2012-11-05T13:44:39Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> if the clock is set by WWVB then it should be accurate though your clock may not have good reception and not get a signal to set from for part of a day.
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> the clock may have a function, maybe switchable, to auto switch time on the dates. it may have to old dates.

No, its just got old firmware/software in it that assumes the old style DST. The minute hand and second hand are what are adjusted by the signal.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/17 "2012-11-05T14:01:00Z")

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Anyway, the farmers need the extra hour of sunlight.

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### Author: ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/18 "2012-11-05T14:08:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Anyway, the farmers need the extra hour of sunlight.

Farmers can operate on whatever schedule they want, we could move the clock ahead 4 hours and they’d still get up and do the work when they wanted. It’s those of us who are tied to a clock rather than the sun that this impacts.

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/19 "2012-11-05T14:14:34Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> Farmers can operate on whatever schedule they want, we could move the clock ahead 4 hours and they’d still get up and do the work when they wanted. It’s those of us who are tied to a clock rather than the sun that this impacts.

That’s not what Benjamin Franklin thinks, and he was the smartest American ever.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-as-if-daylight-savings-time-never-ended/639890/20 "2012-11-05T14:16:48Z")

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Got a sundial outside. Which way do I move it?

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