# It's been done....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581 "2005-06-23T19:17:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/1 "2005-06-23T19:17:08Z")

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…and more is not necessarily better… but I just have to get it out because my head may explode from the sheer stupidity of Bill O’Reilly’s logic behind flag burning. I paraphrase:

“Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?”  
Fuck you Bill, you disingenuous twat. Your show is waste of public airwaves. You are the anti-matter to coherent and intelligent human thought. You have single handedly undermind any vestige of legitimate conservative thought and ideas.

Shut the fuck up you knee jerk reactionary excrement. Please. Just S.T.F.U.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/2 "2005-06-23T19:19:10Z")

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Fuck. I’m so worked up I’ve posted in the wrong damn forum.

:smack:

Sorry mods… I plead temporary insanity.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/3 "2005-06-23T23:52:43Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Fuck. I’m so worked up I’ve posted in the wrong damn forum.
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> :smack:
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> Sorry mods… I plead temporary insanity.

You sure the fuck did. 😛 Let me move the damn thing from IMHO to The BBQ Pit for you.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/4 "2005-06-24T00:10:33Z")

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“Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?”

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Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some blowhard TV pundit using your tragedy to make some stupid point tying civil disobedience to terrorism… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing your loved ones abused in that manner?

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/5 "2005-06-24T00:16:06Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> “Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?”
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> Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some blowhard TV pundit using your tragedy to make some stupid point tying civil disobedience to terrorism… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing your loved ones abused in that manner?

Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some blowhards using your tragedy to make some stupid point on a message board.

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/6 "2005-06-24T00:16:18Z")

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I think just reading that made my IQ go down.

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/7 "2005-06-24T00:21:12Z")

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Erm…I’m talking about Bill O’Reilly’s quote.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/8 "2005-06-24T00:21:12Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some blowhards using your tragedy to make some stupid point on a message board.

Don’t be so hard on yourself.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/9 "2005-06-24T00:21:15Z")

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Lib, when you stay the hell outta politics, you actual seem kind cool. 😛 Sorta like me, in a way. 😃

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/10 "2005-06-24T00:23:05Z")

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As opposed to now, when you sound like a raving idiot. Again, like me. Kinda. 😛

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/11 "2005-06-24T00:27:59Z")

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For coolness, Scott, you’re the teacher, and I’m the student. You’ve come further in your short time here than I have in my nearly six years. I recall a bombastic and incorrigible proselytizing hard atheist, who hurled insults like Napalm. That character no longer exists, and in its place there has emerged a thoughtful, gregarious, and reasonable hard atheist who is willing to listen. I respect you. You’ve earned it.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/12 "2005-06-24T00:28:04Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Don’t be so hard on yourself.

I’m not. you don’t see the irony of somehow needing an entire new thread about the flag burning issue just 'cause O’Reilly said something stupid about it? Criminey if we need new threads for every new O’Reilly fuck up we’ll need to triple the pit.

we need to demonstrate how seriously we take 9/11 by pitting every fucking stupid moron who trivializes it by using it to make some political hay? I don’t think so.

9/11 had a serious effect on everyone in the world, IMHO. Constantly using it as bait by every tom, bill and quicksilver trivializes it. we need a new “Godwin” type reference for when the obligatory “If you had lost some one dear to you…” comment that comes around.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/13 "2005-06-24T00:32:39Z")

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Yeah, but the way I see it, there have been endless threads about everything Bush — from Bush’s monkey-ass facial expressions to Bush’s pronunciation of nuclear. At last, SDMB liberals are posting condemnations of actual tyrannies. I feel like I can participate as a peer. For me, it’s greatly refreshing, and I intend to take Janis Jopin’s sage advice: get it while you can.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/14 "2005-06-24T00:42:48Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Yeah, but the way I see it, there have been endless threads about everything Bush

no arguement there

> [@Liberal](#):
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> At last, SDMB liberals are posting condemnations of actual tyrannies. I feel like I can participate as a peer. For me, it’s greatly refreshing, and I intend to take Janis Jopin’s sage advice: get it while you can.

I probably shouldn’t have quoted you quoting the OP, and just quoted the OP. 'cause the comment wasn’t really directed at you so much.

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/15 "2005-06-24T01:30:54Z")

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> [@QuickSilver"](#):
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> Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?"

I’d just like to point out that these actions have nothing to DO with each other.

I am personally opposed to burning the flag under any circumstances, but…

\*burning the flag

protesting against government

yelling how great Osama Bin Laden is\*  
are not mutually intertwined. In fact, they have nothing to do with each other.

And yes, I know you all know this already. I just thought it was worth reiterating.

Disclaimer…I’m an (albeit on the conservative side) liberal, and never listen to Bill O’Reilly. I also never listen to Rush Limbaugh. I have excellent blood pressure, and I aim to keep it that way. 😃

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/16 "2005-06-24T01:37:24Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> For coolness, Scott, you’re the teacher, and I’m the student. \<snip\>.

The ::Blushing:: icon just doesn’t look right. Oh, wait, there is the pretty 🆒 of you to say so icon. Thanx. ::Blushing::

No, wait. A real cool guy would just stand there looking stoic. Ah, well.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/17 "2005-06-24T01:41:38Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> “Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?”
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> Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some blowhard TV pundit using your tragedy to make some stupid point tying civil disobedience to terrorism… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing your loved ones abused in that manner?

All right, this is twice in one day that you’ve said something that makes me applaud. Think Hitler is strapping on ice skates right now?

😉

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/18 "2005-06-24T01:50:21Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> “Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?”
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> Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some blowhard TV pundit using your tragedy to make some stupid point tying civil disobedience to terrorism… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing your loved ones abused in that manner?

Damn.

That’s really all that’s gotta be said, isn’t it.

Thanks, **Liberal**. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/19 "2005-06-24T02:04:23Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> “Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?”

Imagine some tv blowhard just completely pissed on what you thought was a great way to spend the weekend.

I mean…uhm…Go America?

_D&R_

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/20 "2005-06-24T13:06:39Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some blowhards using your tragedy to make some stupid point on a message board.

😕 WTF?

I said it’s been done. I acknowledged that more isn’t better and that I’m just blowing off steam…

Feel free to exercise your right to take the high road and not comment. :wally

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