# It's been done.... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581 "2005-06-23T19:17:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/21 "2005-06-24T13:31:07Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > “Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?” OK, time for a reality check. Has anyone on this board ever once, since 9/11, seen or heard any American, liberal or otherwise, shouting about great bin Laden is? Even once? Loudmouth asswipe conservatives (as opposed to the quietmouth reasonable ones) love to make this claim. Which goes to prove what wonderful imaginations they have. ---
**Author:** ![Psycho\_Pirate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Psycho\_Pirate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psycho_Pirate)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/22 "2005-06-24T13:51:07Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I paraphrase: > > “Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?” I’m surprised to find myself defending O’Reilly, but…can we get a clear quote from the man before we get outraged? Is this really what he said? If so, that was a stupid comment. As **tdn** already said, I can think of no one shouting about how great Bin Laden is. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/23 "2005-06-24T14:00:22Z")
[Psycho Pirate](http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/dc/psychopirate.htm), normally, I would agree that we need a direct qoute. However, both because you are a supervillian, and because so is O’ Reilly, I no longer feel the need too. Besides, he has said worse stuff then this, so I have no problem believing he said it. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/24 "2005-06-24T14:20:57Z")
> [@Psycho Pirate](#): > > I’m surprised to find myself defending O’Reilly, but…can we get a clear quote from the man before we get outraged? Is this really what he said? If so, that was a stupid comment. As **tdn** already said, I can think of no one shouting about how great Bin Laden is. Wish I could. I caught a piece of his radio broadcast yesterday on a local radio station. There may be transcripts available. I don’t know. Why am I listening to him in the first place?.. Don’t know. ‘Cuz it’s a short drive and the music on all other stations sucked and NPR needs to get hosts who’s voices don’t make listeners slip into a coma. Yeah, Diane Rhem and Kojo Annandi (?), I’m talkin’ to you. ---
**Author:** ![Psycho\_Pirate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Psycho\_Pirate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psycho_Pirate)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/25 "2005-06-24T14:25:37Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > [Psycho Pirate](http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/dc/psychopirate.htm), normally, I would agree that we need a direct qoute. However, both because you are a supervillian, and because so is O’ Reilly, I no longer feel the need too. Besides, he has said worse stuff then this, so I have no problem believing he said it. Oh sure, show your bias against super-villains. We’re people too, you know! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/26 "2005-06-24T14:25:48Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Why am I listening to him in the first place?.. Don’t know. ‘Cuz it’s a short drive and the music on all other stations sucked and NPR needs to get hosts who’s voices don’t make listeners slip into a coma. Yeah, Diane Rhem and Kojo Annandi (?), I’m talkin’ to you. Good times. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/27 "2005-06-24T14:58:17Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Imagine some tv blowhard just completely pissed on what you thought was a great way to spend the weekend. > > I mean…uhm…Go America? Well, so much for THAT keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/28 "2005-06-24T15:13:21Z")
“Imagine you’re one of the 9/11 families and you see some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is while fucking the corpse of your grandmother on a pile af newborn babies covered in honey next to a anthill filled with fireants all on your best linens… Wouldn’t you get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner?” ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/29 "2005-06-24T15:24:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > All right, this is twice in one day that you’ve said something that makes me applaud. Think Hitler is strapping on ice skates right now? > > 😉 I’d rather think of it as the lion lying down with the lamb. 😃 I’ve never been comfortable with our enmity. I think Sam Stone is correct: the classical and modern liberals are, if not coming together completely, at least beginning to understand one another better. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/30 "2005-06-24T15:29:01Z")
His statement is meaningless rhetoric. Parsed literally, the answer is “Yes.” If I were one of the 9/11 families and I saw some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is I would get upset at seeing the flag burned in that manner? I think that’s beyond dispute. In fact, even though I’m NOT one of the 9/11 families, if I saw some yahoo on the street burning the flag and protesting against the gov’t and yelling how great Ossama Bin Laden is, I’d get upset. The question is what inference we may draw from that. My being upset - or even a 9/11 family getting upset - is not sufficient reason to change the law. I am sympathetic to everyone - myself most of all - but neither the 9/11 families nor I have, or should have, a legal right to be free from upset. If I do have such a right, then Michael Moore’s very existence is in jeopardy. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/31 "2005-06-24T15:31:15Z")
But as NurseCarmen has pointed out (beautifully), there is a problem with O’Reilly’s non sequitur about cheering Bin Laden. That’s what makes him a certified dick. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/32 "2005-06-24T15:32:58Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I recall a bombastic and incorrigible proselytizing hard atheist, who hurled insults like Napalm. Yeah, what the fuck happened to him? I remember it as if it were last month (because it might’ve been last month) that seeing Scott\_Plaid’s name on a thread meant there was one less thread I’d need to read. Now there’s this almost-boring changeling using his account. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/33 "2005-06-24T15:42:55Z")
I won a debate with Bricker on the subject on Judaism, but along the way, Guin stated that I had taken things too far. I kinda respect her, most of the time. I could not figure out what I said wrong, decided it was my tone, and lurked a lot more on debates against people I disagreed with. Now, I hang back a little more, save for situations where I am sure I am 100% in the right. Wait, does those two statement contradict each other? 😃 Oh, and coming from you, dropzone, boring seems like an odd term. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/34 "2005-06-24T15:50:46Z")
We all need our specialities. Mine is “utter tedium in prose form.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/35 "2005-06-24T17:46:10Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > His statement is meaningless rhetoric. Is that all it is? Do you deny that it’s also (a) a hideous slur by implication, and (b) a cheap exploitation of national tragedy? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/36 "2005-06-24T19:16:32Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > 😕 WTF? > > I said it’s been done. I acknowledged that more isn’t better and that I’m just blowing off steam… > > Feel free to exercise your right to take the high road and not comment. :wally sorry - I missed the memo where we were told that in \*\*Quick Silver \*\* pit threads, we were only allowed to post if we agreed. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/37 "2005-06-24T20:12:29Z")
> [@wring](#): > > sorry - I missed the memo where we were told that in \*\*Quick Silver \*\* pit threads, we were only allowed to post if we agreed. Apology accepted. I trust this will never happen again. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581/38 "2005-06-25T01:24:44Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Liberal > For coolness, Scott, you’re the teacher, and I’m the student. \. > > The ::Blushing:: icon just doesn’t look right. Oh, wait, there is the pretty of you to say so icon. Thanx. ::Blushing:: > > No, wait. A real cool guy would just stand there looking stoic. Ah, well. Get a room, you guys… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-done/309581.md?page=1)