# It's been nearly six months, TubaDiva, where is the "more better stuff" you promised? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 7, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612 "2006-10-07T16:32:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/61 "2006-10-10T12:15:26Z")
I got no beef against mods or admins; I still think the _Chicago Reader_ is a pissant, penny-ante operation unfit to own this board or the Cecil Adams trademark. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/62 "2006-10-10T12:46:38Z")
[QUOTE=Garfield226] This seems to be contradictory. [/QUOTE] Not at all. **Dex** was talking about the decision to upgrade the server and/or software and when that is to happen; **Tuba** was talking about the decision to pass along the information about the planned upgrade. We, as staff, can’t control the former, but the latter is shared because posters have requested that we share it. **Tuba** acted in good faith with the information she had at the time. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/63 "2006-10-10T13:03:43Z")
[QUOTE=An Arky] I got no beef against mods or admins; I still think the _Chicago Reader_ is a pissant, penny-ante operation unfit to own this board or the Cecil Adams trademark. [/QUOTE] That’s a very good point that I didn’t think of when I posted the ATMB thread, and I just posted words to that effect in the original thread. Well said, **An Arky** , and I apologize to all members of the administration that I unfairly implicated due to their posting of false, incomplete, or bullshit information provided by the _Reader_. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/64 "2006-10-11T01:34:12Z")
[QUOTE=SkipMagic] **Tuba** acted in good faith with the information she had at the time. [/QUOTE] Gee, that seems like a familiar excuse. And you’d think if it’s happened more than once, she’d learn. And the other guy who’s routinely trashed for it here didn’t even have the benefit of experiencing it before, as Tuba has… And the crickets keep on chirping. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/65 "2006-10-11T01:55:11Z")
[QUOTE=Garfield226] And the crickets keep on chirping. [/QUOTE] Huh. I thought it was locusts, buzzing. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/66 "2006-10-11T01:57:22Z")
what sound do buzzrds make? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/67 "2006-10-11T02:52:39Z")
[QUOTE=wring] what sound do buzzrds make? [/QUOTE] [“Ooooh, nonononono.”](http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Beaky_Buzzard/ltbk_019.wav) ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/68 "2006-10-11T14:13:28Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] That is just ignorant. Of course it is not the $30 dollars. It is the work involved in migrating from the current version to the newest version. Have you ever migrated from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003, you would be amazed at how much more work is involved in this for only a 100 users than it sounds in writing. [/QUOTE] I’ve upgraded a vBulletin-based message board many times. It’s simple; replace existing vBulletin scripts with the new versions, run an upgrade script, and click “continue” when prompted. That’s it. The process will take longer because of the size of the SDMB databse, but otherwise it’s quite easy. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/69 "2006-10-11T14:19:06Z")
[QUOTE=elmwood] I’ve upgraded a vBulletin-based message board many times. It’s simple; replace existing vBulletin scripts with the new versions, run an upgrade script, and click “continue” when prompted. That’s it. The process will take longer because of the size of the SDMB databse, but otherwise it’s quite easy. [/QUOTE] \*\*Jerry Davis \*\* has kindly been responding in the ATMB thread: [Yeah, I know it’s been done to death, but…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7857848#post7857848) Maybe you could pop in there and politely suggest the upgrade path is not painful, how to get past the 2.4 Gig limit and what benefits to the Server Admin the upgrade will provide. A good quick tech rundown might be appreciated. I speak as an IT guy in this case. I of course could be dead wrong. Jim ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/70 "2006-10-11T14:27:20Z")
Sorry to follow up, but … It looks like messages are being deleted from the SDMB on a weekly basis. It also looks like messages have been purged on a regular basis since January. See [Bigboards](http://www.big-boards.com/board/15/) Also, from the page … > [@big-boards.com](#): > > Forum software: vBulletin > Number of posts: 6724170 > Number of members: 61206 > Post per member ratio: 110 > **Posts last week: -3714** > Alexa ranking: 8073 > > (bolding mine) ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/71 "2006-10-11T14:52:52Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Maybe you could pop in there and politely suggest the upgrade path is not painful, how to get past the 2.4 Gig limit and what benefits to the Server Admin the upgrade will provide. A good quick tech rundown might be appreciated. I speak as an IT guy in this case. I of course could be dead wrong. [/QUOTE] Done. I went into a bit more detail, but it’s still a very simple, mostly painless process. 🙂 [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7858308#post7858308](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7858308#post7858308) If, for some reason, vBulletin just isn’t cutting it (even though it works fine on much larger boards), there’s always the option of trying Invision Power Board. vBulletin is the standard on most larger sites, though, and visiting one that uses IPB just makes the site seem a bit off. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/72 "2006-10-13T17:15:49Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] I have to admit that as a paying member I’m not really the slightest bit interested in more features. It’s a message board; the features I want are the abilities to post and read messages, plus a good search function. I like it simple. I would much rather not have my money spent on bells and whistles that serve no purpose. I WOULD, however, love to have it (a) faster, and (b) to retain a full message history. So I’d like to know where the new server. I want my money spent on better hardware. If they have 3000-4000 paying members, that’s plenty of money to buy better hardware. [/QUOTE] Indeed. Lately it seems to be getting worse and worse, and I too wonder where all that money goes. As we all agree, the money we pay doesn’t relieve us of the responsibility of obeying the rules or eliminate the penalty of being banned, and that makes sense. In any place of public accommodation, even one that you have to pay to enter, customers have to toe the line or be ejected. But I sure thought we’d see some performance improvements, and that hasn’t happened. Would it help if the “guest” period was cut down to a week? Given the pace at which things happen here, if you don’t know whether you want to be a full fledged Doper after one week, you’re probably not going to know after three more weeks either. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/73 "2006-10-13T17:19:58Z")
[QUOTE=Spectre of Pithecanthropus] Would it help if the “guest” period was cut down to a week? Given the pace at which things happen here, if you don’t know whether you want to be a full fledged Doper after one week, you’re probably not going to know after three more weeks either. [/QUOTE] Agreed. In my case, I posted two questions as a guest, and was sufficiently impressed by the board’s responses that I bought a membership after four days. I don’t know this for a fact, but I feel that most people who milk the full month are trolls, socks or both. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/74 "2006-10-13T17:33:27Z")
[QUOTE=Spectre of Pithecanthropus] Would it help if the “guest” period was cut down to a week? Given the pace at which things happen here, if you don’t know whether you want to be a full fledged Doper after one week, you’re probably not going to know after three more weeks either. [/QUOTE] I don’t think that that would make too big of a difference in terms of speed. I think that a week is too short of a time. I guess it’s safe to assume that we won’t be getting any new stuff and that **catsix** and others won’t get the apology that they deserve. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/75 "2006-10-13T17:51:57Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] I guess it’s safe to assume that we won’t be getting any new stuff and that **catsix** and others won’t get the apology that they deserve. [/QUOTE] Safe assumptions, both. ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/76 "2006-10-13T19:28:10Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] I think that it’s fair to ask just exactly what the fuck were these secret better things that were supposedly already in the works and are they still coming. [/QUOTE] Ah, but if you got an answer … would you believe it? “Fool me once …” and all that, you know. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/77 "2006-10-14T00:44:15Z")
As far as the memory capacity to archive posts, I have to agree with others in laughing at the mention of cost in any way. Shit, WOOT had a 250GB HDD running at $50 a few days ago. Granted, it’s for personal use, but storage space is fucking cheap. Even for commercial use, it can’t be so cost-prohibitive to archive posts. (Even if they include mine) Hell, I know of a technology that would easily do what we all want in regards to archiving for nearly no cost. But mentioning it would get me banned. :rolleyes: Part of the reason I re-upped was to just watch what happened when all the promises and glory were called bullshit, and the dancing that would ensue. (Subscription paid so I could commentate on the lies spewed.) Can’t remember who the dick was that called for the end of the board last spring (since banned), but he seemed to be onto something. A lot of people like to say “Well, quit paying and avoid the ass-door connection on your way out.” Fuck that. We’re paying money to a site that tells us we’ll be happy if we pay and wait a bit longer after doing so, so we can enjoy the rapture of astounding goodness in a board. Still not sure what the goodness is though. Tell ya what. I paid to join. I was told I’d see some great improvements. Haven’t seen them (other than two emoticons being removed), and haven’t gotten any notice about the “Coming Change.” I paid for that promise. Refund my fucking money or perform what was promised. I’ll go quietly. I won’t create socks or alt identities. I’ll watch my bank account for the refund and cease to post here. Otherwise, I’ll play fast and loose with the rules and protocol, just like those that are in position to make the statements cited that began this whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/78 "2006-10-14T01:34:58Z")
[QUOTE=duffer] Hell, I know of a technology that would easily do what we all want in regards to archiving for nearly no cost. But mentioning it would get me banned. [/quote] Not true. > [@duffer](#): > > Part of the reason I re-upped was to just watch what happened when all the promises and glory were called bullshit, and the dancing that would ensue. (Subscription paid so I could commentate on the lies spewed.) “Commentate” is not a word. > [@duffer](#): > > Can’t remember who the dick was that called for the end of the board last spring (since banned), but he seemed to be onto something. Are you suggesting that “he” was banned because he called for the end of the board? Not likely. > [@duffer](#): > > I paid for that promise. Refund my fucking money or perform what was promised. I’ll go quietly. I won’t create socks or alt identities. I’ll watch my bank account for the refund and cease to post here. Otherwise, I’ll play fast and loose with the rules and protocol, just like those that are in position to make the statements cited that began this whole thing. This brings to mind the terrorist with a gun to his temple, saying that if we don’t release someone, he’ll start shooting. Son, don’t post drunk. It scares away the newbies. ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/79 "2006-10-14T01:49:30Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] “Commentate” is not a word. [/QUOTE] :: [ahem](http://m-w.com/dictionary/commentate) :: ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612/80 "2006-10-14T02:23:32Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] Not true. [/quote] So we can freely discuss P2P and how to implement it? Good to know. > [@samclem](#): > > “Commentate” is not a word. So, should we call you Merriam or Webster? > [@samclem](#): > > Are you suggesting that “he” was banned because he called for the end of the board? Not likely. Well, I never suggested his banning was because of that, but you’re the boss, so twist it into whatever you like. > [@samclem](#): > > This brings to mind the terrorist with a gun to his temple, saying that if we don’t release someone, he’ll start shooting. So you’re equating me to a terrorist threatening to kill myself? Because I’d like to get a little accountability from those I’m sending money to? Nice. Very nice. > [@samclem](#): > > Son, don’t post drunk. It scares away the newbies. No, douchenozzles like you that the newbies see as in charge scares them off. Keep in mind all your disdain for me. It’s so true and pure that anyone with a functioning brain stem can see it, right? Yet you post this shit. Says something about you. Now answer the fucking questions. Quit ducking them with insults and condescension. (Yes, that’s a word as well. Look it up.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-been-nearly-six-months-tubadiva-where-is-the-more-better-stuff-you-promised/375612.md?page=5)