# It's called an Arnold Palmer for a reason, douche. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 19, 2007, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707 "2007-05-19T08:33:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/81 "2007-05-19T20:14:37Z")
I’ll betcha this drink looks like pee. Don’t drink pee. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/82 "2007-05-19T21:52:48Z")
[QUOTE=GingerOfTheNorth] I’ll betcha this drink looks like pee. Don’t drink pee. [/QUOTE] It looks more like [this](http://lovest-la.com/images/eat_images/no37/37_guru_drink.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/83 "2007-05-19T22:10:59Z")
**Rigamarole** I’m going to accept that the way you perceived it was accurate as there is no way to prove anything about your past experience here on a message board. She sounds like a moron. That sort of racial insensitivity is annoying. It is sort of irritating when people make a big deal out of stupid shit like that. ‘It’s ok, I don’t need to respect your racial heritage, because you’re white.’ ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/84 "2007-05-19T22:28:13Z")
> [@](#): > > It is sort of irritating when people make a big deal out of stupid shit like that. Unless the woman is also posting a thread somewhere about this incident, it seems like the only person who’s making a big deal out of stupid shit is **Rigamarole**. I ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/85 "2007-05-19T22:37:13Z")
[QUOTE=monstro] Unless the woman is also posting a thread somewhere about this incident, it seems like the only person who’s making a big deal out of stupid shit is **Rigamarole**. I [/QUOTE] Writing a Pit Thread is a ‘Big Deal’? I thought the entire point of this particular board was to bitch about shit that annoyed you that you have no other outlet for. Incidentally, my introduction to racism was from black people with a chip on their shoulder about it. Sure what the lady did was NBD but it’s still annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/86 "2007-05-19T22:47:02Z")
[QUOTE=Rigamarole] Because there really is no other reasoning for it? [/QUOTE] I dunno - maybe when she was introduced to the drink, the person who introduced it to her called it a Tiger Woods, and she just thinks that’s what it’s called? Nah, let’s not go and do something crazy like give people the benefit of the doubt. After all, some guy somewhere once told you the name change was because Arnold Palmer is white. Clearly, that can be the only reason anyone would ever use a different name for that particular drink, and all black people everywhere (through the magic of African Telepathy) automatically knew the reasoning behind the name change. Which is why that’s the _only_ possible reason that lady called it a “Tiger Woods.” ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/87 "2007-05-19T22:50:05Z")
[QUOTE=mswas] Writing a Pit Thread is a ‘Big Deal’? I thought the entire point of this particular board was to bitch about shit that annoyed you that you have no other outlet for. Incidentally, my introduction to racism was from black people with a chip on their shoulder about it. Sure what the lady did was NBD but it’s still annoying. [/QUOTE] The woman did not make a big deal out of stupid shit. She said a joke. It’s not really that funny or cute, but I don’t think it’s OMG! OFFENSIVE!! either. I don’t know about you, but I don’t call people “douche” unless I’m really het up. But you go on and encourage his temper tantrum. I’ll remember your sympathy the next time a black Doper “with a chip on their shoulder” posts a similar rant. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/88 "2007-05-19T23:00:25Z")
I know it’s only May, but is it too early to call this the lamest pitting of the century? ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/89 "2007-05-19T23:12:50Z")
And you know what I hate? When I go into a Starbucks and order a large, and the sanctimonius Cup-Size Nazi at the counter starts… Oh, you know, I probably shouldn’t go there… ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/90 "2007-05-19T23:15:33Z")
Maybe Tiger Woods is the only other golfer she knows off the top of her head, and she wanted a witty reply to being corrected. Besides Michelle Wu, Woods is the only one I could name right now. I would hope someone would not attribute this coincidence to my race or my gender. It’s just that these two golfers stick out. She might not have known that the Arnold Palmer was the universal name of the drink (I sure didn’t). She might have thought that was a name **Rigamarole** or the restaurant came up with, and thus assumed this gives her license with the name of “her” drink. The thinking would be something like this: _If everywhere I go I can get lemonade and iced tea with no confusion, and this one place has the audacity to name my favorite drink after some obscure guy and then correct me like I don’t know what kind of drink I want, then I’ll just rib them a little and pretend I ordered another drink, one that’s named after another golfer, just to make myself look clever. Heh heh heh._ I don’t see any maliciousness. I see mild embarrassment and then an attempt to be funny. I also see some snobbery. Just because someone named the drink after a famous dude (who “invented” something many tea drinkers have discovered independently) does not mean everyone is required to use that name. She would have been a douche moron if she had insisted that Tiger Woods was the correct name. But she didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![TwoTrouts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@TwoTrouts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoTrouts)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/91 "2007-05-19T23:17:26Z")
After all these years on this world, after all my travels to various coutries, I have never heard of this concotion. So, being culinarily inquisitive, I took the pitcher of iced tea and the pitcher of lemonade from the fridge and made one. BLEAAH!!! I think it should be called an _Adam Sandler_, because it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/92 "2007-05-19T23:24:11Z")
A **Tiger Woods** actually fits much better if you think about it. - Half yellow and half dark. Maybe the lady just had a good sense of accuracy. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/93 "2007-05-19T23:27:55Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] If you say so. Personally, I don’t see the point of getting all butt-hurt over such a trivial example of racially loaded speech. As a white male, I’ve not personally suffered a single iota of racism in my entire life. While I have no doubt that anti-white racism exists, it’s so far from being institutionalized or pervasive as to have no effect on my life. Were I to encounter an anti-white bigot, I think it would be easy to shrug it off simply because I know that it’s just one idiot. I think we all agree that people shouldn’t be racist. But I sense a disproportionate sense of outrage in the OP at the fact that it was perceived black on white racism. As if fighting institutionalized discrimination over the past half century obligates all black people to be held to the highest possible standard of racial sensitivity. Me, while I’d love it if no one ever thought a racially-biased thought, I’ll cut people who have been truly discriminated against some slack when they’re overly sensitive. White guys looking for a reason to get outraged over any perceived racial slight? Not so much. [/QUOTE] Thank you. I get tired of “reverse racism” whining. Context means something. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/94 "2007-05-19T23:43:04Z")
You know, one time my mother sent me to the pharmacy. I went to the counter and asked for a concoction made with water mixed 16:1 with mild vinegar. The pharmacist looked at me with a smirk and said, “a **rigamarole**?” ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/95 "2007-05-19T23:47:51Z")
[QUOTE=monstro] Maybe Tiger Woods is the only other golfer she knows off the top of her head, and she wanted a witty reply to being corrected. Besides Michelle Wu, Woods is the only one I could name right now. [/QUOTE] I think you mean Michelle Wie. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/96 "2007-05-19T23:51:51Z")
[QUOTE=The King of Soup] You know, one time my mother sent me to the pharmacy. I went to the counter and asked for a concoction made with water mixed 16:1 with mild vinegar. The pharmacist looked at me with a smirk and said, “a **rigamarole**?” [/QUOTE] Whoo, god, you never fail to amuse/astound/edify/intrigue. Seriously, your shit blows me away. I always click on a \*\*KOS \*\*post. Even when I disagree with you, (rarely) I have to give you props for your style. Surely you write for a living, no? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/97 "2007-05-20T00:23:23Z")
[QUOTE=Yookeroo] Thank you. I get tired of “reverse racism” whining. Context means something. [/QUOTE] There is no such thing as reverse racism. That implies that only white people can be racists. **Monstro** It’s a pit thread, you apparently have higher standards for pit threads than I do. I might call someone a douche on a lark personally. I don’t take what I read here terribly seriously. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/98 "2007-05-20T00:24:34Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] …Surely you write for a living, no? [/QUOTE] Nah. The eight bucks/year you’re paying for the SDMB beats any offer I’ve ever gotten. But thanks for the kind words. I pay attention to posts under your name as well. ---
**Author:** ![seenidog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@seenidog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seenidog)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/99 "2007-05-20T01:24:37Z")
To the OP: The lady asked for half Iced tea and half lemonade. It could have ended there, you could have just honored the order. End of story. But you have to turn it in to a racial event. You are a freaking idiot and if you worked for me I would have fired your sorry ass on the spot. Your hurt little feelings mean nothing in the real world. Grow up and get a skin. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/100 "2007-05-20T01:29:15Z")
[QUOTE=F. U. Shakespeare] The Thai restaurant I work at serves Thai Iced Tea, which is iced tea with half and half. Since Tiger is part Thai, maybe you could add half and half to an Arnold Palmer and call it a Tiger Woods? [/QUOTE] Wouldn’t you end up with a non-alcoholic version of a cement mixer? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707.md?page=6)