# It's called an Arnold Palmer for a reason, douche.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 19, 2007, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707 "2007-05-19T08:33:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/101 "2007-05-20T01:49:45Z")

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[QUOTE=adam yax]  
Why can’t an Ice Tea with Lemonade be both a Arnold Palmer and a Tiger Woods?

I mean aren’t a Shirley Temple and a Roy Rogers the same drink?  
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A Madonna is like a Shirley Temple, except without the cherry 😃

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**Author:** ![cherry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cherry)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/102 "2007-05-20T02:10:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
Eh, we’re just not getting too upset about it. Mostly I just really, really want an Arnold Palmer. Even though that’s one of those words I just _cannot_ say right. Arnord Par… Arnold Pawww… fuck it. Maybe _that’s_ why she called it a Tiger Woods.  
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Me too. Arnold Palmer never comes out right when it’s time to say it. It’s like a tongue twister. So sometimes I say half and half and other times after I’ve practised I say Arnold Palmer hoping I don’t screw up while saying it.

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**Author:** ![figure9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@figure9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/figure9)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/103 "2007-05-20T02:11:43Z")

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According to your OP, they lady asked for an iced tea with lemonade and you served them **margaritas**. Be glad you got any tip at all I would have stiffed you. By the way a Margarita is not made with iced tea and lemonade.

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**Author:** ![Khampelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Khampelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khampelf)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/104 "2007-05-20T03:23:13Z")

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This thread has inspired me. Next time I’m out for alcohol, I’m going to order vodka and orange juice, with a splash of galliano, but insist the bartender call it a ‘Nick Gabaldon’.

Yeah. Stick it to the man. That’ll bring down the system.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/105 "2007-05-20T05:17:40Z")

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[QUOTE=adam yax]  
Why can’t an Ice Tea with Lemonade be both a Arnold Palmer and a Tiger Woods?

I mean aren’t a Shirley Temple and a Roy Rogers the same drink?  
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I thought one was coke and the other sprite.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/106 "2007-05-20T07:00:54Z")

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[QUOTE=11811]  
A Madonna is like a Shirley Temple, except without the cherry 😃  
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_That’s_ a good one. I will definitley be using that. 😃

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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/107 "2007-05-20T13:31:53Z")

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All good waitstaff know that an Arnold Palmer is half iced-tea and half lemonade whereas a Tiger Woods is half lemonade and half iced-tea. The difference is in the order you pour them. You got her order wrong and she simply corrected you. What’s the big deal?

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/108 "2007-05-20T14:34:25Z")

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1.0 I’ve never heard of an Arnold Palmer although I have heard of Arnold Palmer.

2.0 I’ve never of a Tiger Woods although I have heard of Tiger Woods.

3.0 I’ve never heard of anyone mixing iced tea with lemonade.

4.0 If someone did mix iced teal with lemonade, why would it be worth of being called anything but iced tea mixed with lemonade?

5.0 Where the hell have I been all my life?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/109 "2007-05-20T15:18:28Z")

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[QUOTE=LouisB]  
5.0 Where the hell have I been all my life?  
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Well, I can’t answer for the previous decades and decades, but your location tag puts you in Seminole, FL. (Maybe your kids could put it on a card tied to your wrist the next time they visit?)

😃

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/110 "2007-05-20T16:43:08Z")

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I’m curious about something.

Say I ordered an iced tea mixed with lemonade, and the server said, “An Arnold Palmer!” and I said, “I’m from his hometown, so let’s call it a Jack Nicklaus.”

Would that be offensive? Because I can’t see a difference.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/111 "2007-05-20T16:44:58Z")

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[QUOTE=CaveMike]  
All good waitstaff know that an Arnold Palmer is half iced-tea and half lemonade whereas a Tiger Woods is half lemonade and half iced-tea. …  
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So a straight iced tea would be a Arnold Woods and lemonade is a Tiger Palmer?

Fuck all these modern golfers, I’m oldschool _waiter two Ben Hogans, a Sam Snead, and a Byron Nelson no ice, and make it snappy or no tip!_

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/112 "2007-05-20T16:45:41Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
I’m curious about something.

Say I ordered an iced tea mixed with lemonade, and the server said, “An Arnold Palmer!” and I said, “I’m from his hometown, so let’s call it a Jack Nicklaus.”

Would that be offensive? Because I can’t see a difference.  
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You don’t see a difference between “Tiger Woods is black like me” and “Jack Nicklaus is from my hometown”?

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/113 "2007-05-20T16:47:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Rigamarole]  
You don’t see a difference between “Tiger Woods is black like me” and “Jack Nicklaus is from my hometown”?  
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huh, missed it in the OP where she said “Tiger Woods is black like me”

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/114 "2007-05-20T16:48:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Rigamarole]  
You don’t see a difference between “Tiger Woods is black like me” and “Jack Nicklaus is from my hometown”?  
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In one I would be saying, “This dude and I have something in common,” and in the other I would be saying, “This dude and I have something in common.”

There’s a difference, given that they use different words and such, but what, specifically, is okay about me ordering a Jack Nicklaus and not a Tiger Woods? Be very very specific.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/115 "2007-05-20T16:57:40Z")

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Another possibility, I say, “Let’s call it an Annika Sorenstam.” Does that cause a pit thread?

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/116 "2007-05-20T17:09:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Rigamarole]  
You don’t see a difference between **“Tiger Woods is black like me”** and “Jack Nicklaus is from my hometown”?  
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And that assumption, my friend, shows _your_ racism.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/117 "2007-05-20T17:20:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Don’t fight the hypothetical]  
And that assumption, my friend, shows _your_ racism.  
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This is just it. The presumption of racial motivation – where does it come from?

There has been _zero_ acknowledgement of the plain fact that other places offer “Tiger Woods.”

Is Ms. [Sue Ann O’Buck](http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Tiger-Tea/Detail.aspx) propagating race hatred when she writes “Even non-golfers know this bright beverage is named for famous young pro Tiger Woods?”

What’s the fucking difference?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/118 "2007-05-20T17:23:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Rigamarole]  
You don’t see a difference between “Tiger Woods is black like me” and “Jack Nicklaus is from my hometown”?  
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Tiger Woods, according to him, is Cablasian, not Black.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/119 "2007-05-20T17:38:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Tiger Woods, according to him, is Cablasian, not Black.  
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Woods remarked that this was how he defined himself as a kid.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-called-an-arnold-palmer-for-a-reason-douche/404707/120 "2007-05-20T17:57:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Tiger Woods, according to him, is Cablasian, not Black.  
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I propose that a “Tiger Woods” be composed of equal parts lemonade, Thai iced tea, and Colt 45.

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