# It's creepy: explain the Kennedy curse **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2002, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763 "2002-07-07T08:22:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/21 "2002-07-08T03:21:38Z")
The third time’s a charm. Also…you act as if I’m the first you’ve ever been aware of who has suggested this. Why don’t you open your eyes and ears and you’ll see that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people have this opinion. I’ve had bad luck too, a lot of times many things all at once, in a very short space of time. ONCE AGAIN…that’s not what I’m talking about. I do not attribute that kind of event to a “curse.” THIS is every year, devastating, scandalous, almost like it’s been scheduled. We need to pray for them. ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/22 "2002-07-08T03:50:56Z")
And WSL’er, you couldn’t possibly be living in a more appropriately named city seeing your reaction. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/23 "2002-07-08T04:30:49Z")
So HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people believe in curses. That doesn’t make the concept of curses any less stupid. Pray for the Kennedys? Jeez, they should be praying for _me_. I haven’t got tens of millions of dollars. What a gyp. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sam Stone \* > I knew a family like this in Saskatchewan. They flew airplanes recklessly, drove fast cars, did a lot of target shooting with a casual attitude towards firearms safety, didn’t take care around their farm implements, etc. That family had three vehicle rollover accidents, two airplane crashes, and one accidental shooting during the ten years in which I really knew them well. As well as a series of farm injuries leading to loss of minor appendages. Through some miracle of fate, none of them died during that time. But jeez, if they’d been even slightly unlucky, half that family could have been killed in the space of a few years. And none of it would have happened if only they had a collie named Lassie. “What is it, girl? Has the tractor rolled over Grampa again?” ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/24 "2002-07-08T04:51:08Z")
Rockville, MD ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/25 "2002-07-08T04:52:10Z")
Rockville, MD being only appropriately named for YOU, rockhead, and not the other citizens of that city ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/26 "2002-07-08T05:44:33Z")
So, dopetalker, would you be so kind as to provide some sort of cite showing that the Kennedys have had more ‘bad luck’ than any other comparable rich family? Also, do you see where WSLer got in trouble for sort of being an ass, just a bit up the thread? You might want to try a little harder to not do the same thing, or your stay in the realm of Cecil shall be a short one. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/27 "2002-07-08T05:56:10Z")
oh, don’t mind him, **Wikkit** - it’s just the dope talking. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/28 "2002-07-08T12:24:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dopetalker \* > The third time’s a charm. And your cite for this is? > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dopetalker \* > Also…you act as if I’m the first you’ve ever been aware of who has suggested this. Why don’t you open your eyes and ears and you’ll see that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people have this opinion. Well there are plenty of people who believe in dowsing (never succeeded in any scientific test), pyramid schemes (only work for the swindlers who start them), levitation (they even charge for this :smack: ) and that the US never went to the moon. Unfortunately we like a spot of **evidence** here. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dopetalker \* > I’ve had bad luck too, a lot of times many things all at once, in a very short space of time. ONCE AGAIN…that’s not what I’m talking about. I do not attribute that kind of event to a “curse.” THIS is every year, devastating, scandalous, almost like it’s been scheduled. Aha! Scheduled by whom? > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dopetalker \* > We need to pray for them. Unfortunately the only scientific test of prayer (whether it would lower time spent in hospital) showed that **prayer made no difference.** Perhaps you could send them money instead… ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/29 "2002-07-08T13:05:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dopetalker \* > \*\*Rockville, MD being only appropriately named for YOU, rockhead, and not the other citizens of that city \*\* Ahem. I do the policing around here, not you. You are now officially warned, too. And you two jokers can fight this one out in the pit – it was kind of a weak thread, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/30 "2002-07-08T14:37:07Z")
Hey, now that we’re pitted, let me say that dopetalker is a credulous moron, who betrays the honour of the revolutionary soldiers at Lexington that fought off the oppresive British government by trying to enshrine a new American nobility in the Kennedys, who have done some impressive public service but also have a significant number of drunks and drugusers among their number. In other words, you bootlicking shithead, why are you getting so moist for the damn Kennedys? Let me guess, you cried when watching Pricess Di’s funeral, too. I can just picture you as a mealy-mouthed drooling microcephil whose own life has no real value and thus must be directed vicariously through a bunch of celebrities who would, at best, view you with the contempt you so richly deserve. “Curse”, feh! You’re trying to invest some kind of mystical element into your idiotic worship. Good luck, schmuck. ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/31 "2002-07-08T22:48:39Z")
I really don’t give a flying crap how you do or don’t picture me. But you’ve obviously talked yourself and others into believing it so more power to you. How the fuck dare you call someone else’s worship system idiotic? Do you act like this to everyone who you don’t share beliefs with, proportional to the distance away from your beliefs that their beliefs are? You’re the one who needs the good luck, not me. Wikkit, when you’re confronted by an asshole like this with no apparent restraint or finesse I’ll take you seriously. Until then quit brown nosing the moderators and trying to equate yourself to their importance. Moderator-warning heeded but was I to just read all this and not respond? ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/32 "2002-07-08T22:55:11Z")
And, glee, PLEASE do not lump me into that group of people who believe in levitation, that the earth is just 6000 years old, that we didn’t go to the moon, etc. thank you… ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/33 "2002-07-08T22:59:32Z")
Northern Piper-what’s that supposed to mean? Don’t mind me because I’ve a belief that’s not the mainstream? Now that IS scary… ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/34 "2002-07-08T23:01:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dopetalker \* > \*\*And, glee, PLEASE do not lump me into that group of people who believe in levitation, that the earth is just 6000 years old, that we didn’t go to the moon, etc. thank you… \*\* Can we lump you into the group of people who are rude, unpleasant, who have no manners when posting on new message boards, and who are too damned lazy or ignorant to clarify their OP when someone asks? BTW, the case you are probably referring to is the Skakel case, the guy is only peripherally related to the Kennedys, and it’s not even remotely a recent case – it’s been dragging on for years. ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/35 "2002-07-08T23:04:58Z")
So few people here belive in curses? Few believe that maybe in response to extremely dishonorable, mean, corrupt actions and words that hurt people and ruin their reputations and lives that a person or family can be made to suffer the same things, or that a person or people have the ability to purposefully or inadvertently influence another person’s existence with ill will, resentment, and anger? Well, maybe not. Brian, you overreactionary shithead (how does it feel now?) but all I can say is there just always seems to be trouble brewing in that family. ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/36 "2002-07-08T23:07:16Z")
Finagle-me? ME? What about all of these other name-calling, generalizing people? I’m not even the one who started being unpleasant! ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/37 "2002-07-08T23:07:49Z")
you speak of people making fun of religious beliefs. Please, I beg of you, tell us that you’re not a _Kennedy worshipper_ :eek: ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/38 "2002-07-08T23:09:08Z")
I’m not a Kennedy worshiper. ---
**Author:** ![dopetalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dopetalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dopetalker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/39 "2002-07-08T23:10:12Z")
I’m not a Kennedy worshiper and I’m not “moist” for anybody. I just think some innocents might be suffering along with the guilty, that’s all and that’s a shame. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763/40 "2002-07-08T23:45:36Z")
Why are the Kennedys cursed? Because they _deserve it!_ (see **postcard’s** post) What a bunch of lying, cheating, power-grubbing, power-abusing scumbags. I only wish they don’t get off so easy, but this is just my opinion, and not that of _TENS OF THOUSANDS_ of others!! These pus-bags should be night managers at convienience stores, except they would end up getting fired for stealin’ booze. At least St. Mary Jo gave her life up for a noble cause (i.e. keeping Teddy out of the White House for good). * * * “Grips, here! Get your grips, while they’re hot! Grips, here!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-creepy-explain-the-kennedy-curse/117763.md?page=3)