# It's GAYLORD! GAY- LORD!

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 23, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940 "2022-05-23T16:03:02Z")\
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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> “Bob-lo.”

That’s painful. But then we have a town, Le Seuer, literally “the sewer” that locals pronounce LEE-sewer. It follows a back bend on the Minnesota river, and sometimes in summer, it can smell pretty ripe.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/42 "2022-05-26T10:28:51Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> I give you [Natchitoches](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natchitoches,_Louisiana)

Is there an ointment for that?

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/43 "2022-05-26T16:51:51Z")

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I grew up there also and I have always heard it pronounced Dee-TROYT. Accent on the second syllable.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/44 "2022-05-26T16:54:43Z")

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I lived in Missouri for a while and many of the locals call it “Mizz-oor-ah” which just seemed wrong. Others, however, preferred (knowingly) to simply refer to it as “Misery”.

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> And in England, even people who live in Shrewsbury disagree about whether it’s Shroe or Shroo.

Thank you! I’ve been catching this old UK TV show called _Escape to the Country_. Most of the presenters pronounce it Shrewsbury, but, one of the them (the one I think looks just like Lord Farquar from _Shrek_) always says Shroesbury, so, I was really confused.

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**Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/46 "2022-05-27T01:00:47Z")

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> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> My HS history book said it is pronounced 'DIH-troyt".

I suspect you are misremembering that. It probably said it’s pronounced “dih-TROYT,” as that is – I think – how most people outside of Detroit pronounce it (like me, though I tend to schwa the first syllable. If you look on [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) or [m-w.com](http://m-w.com), that will be the only pronunciation offered by the former, and the latter lists that as the first pronunciation.) DIH-troyt is kinda weird.

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**Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/47 "2022-05-27T01:36:49Z")

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If I could I’d amend my last post. “Dih-TROYT” is indeed the most common local pronunciation of Detroit.

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/48 "2022-05-28T13:54:48Z")

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This is weird. I’ve lived all my life in the greater Metropolitan Detroit area, and now I’ve tried saying ‘Detroit’ several times trying to figure out how exactly do I say it. Definitely an accent on the second syllable, though I have heard ‘DEE-troyt’, as in an announcer saying ‘the DEE-troyt Lions win the game!” (Ok, I don’t hear that _ **particular** _ phrase all that often).

I think for me it’s sort of in the middle between ‘dih-TROYT’ and ‘dee-TROYT’.

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/49 "2022-05-28T14:08:55Z")

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I call it the DTW , the 313 or De-Twah.

Yeah all in Dih-Troyt.

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/50 "2022-05-28T15:08:01Z")

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Sometimes when I hear it as “dee-troyt” is sounds like the accent is almost equal on the two syllables. Like, using poetic scansion, I would label it as a spondee. The dictionaries I’ve checked all seem to put the accent on the first syllable when the “dee” pronunciation is given. So much so, that Merriam-Webster says, after the “dih-TROYT” pronuncation, this note: "_locally also_ ˈdē-ˌtrȯit " Note the tick before the first syllable indicating stress. I find that odd, as, even though I’m not from the area, “DEE-troyt” sounds like an exaggerated pronunciation to me, and one I use from time-to-time facetiously.

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/51 "2022-05-28T15:10:26Z")

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I’ve just discovered the the state of Michigan has on [online pronunciation guide with audio](https://www.michigan.gov/leo/bureaus-agencies/bureau-of-services-for-blind-persons/btbl/pronunciation-guide-you-say-it-how-in-michigan)!

According to that it’s “Gay-lerd” and “DEE-troyt.”

But (IMO) it’s WRONG! (Well… I’m starting to concede “Gaylerd.”

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/52 "2022-05-29T02:27:36Z")

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I used to know a guy named Gaylord. He pronounced it Gay-lord, not Gay-lerd. Considering one of his hobbies was throwing and catching knives with his buddies (their hands always had bandages on them), I would pronounce his name however he preferred it.

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I think as a name it is usually gay-lord. Like the former MLB pitcher Gaylord Perry. We had a big street gang here in Chicago in 80s, too, called the Gaylords, also pronounced as gay-lordz, but they seem to have dissipated. Wikipedia says they still exist, but I haven’t heard much about them in the last couple of decades. (They also simply might not be very active in my neighborhood, which is mostly Latin Kings, Satan’s Disciples, and a sprinkling of Two-Six.)

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I say Dih-troyt unless I am talking about the airport, when it becomes Dee-troyt Wayne. I can’t explain it.

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/55 "2022-05-29T15:21:35Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I think as a name it is usually gay-lord. Like the former MLB pitcher Gaylord Perry.

Or [Gaylord Carter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylord_Carter), the organist. I saw a silent movie at a revival house in L.A. (or The Valley) in the '80s, and Gaylord Carter played the accompaniment.

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My kid had an elementary teacher named Mercedes Hanks.

She was called Ma-shed-ess.  
Not like the car Mercedes. No ‘R’  
sound in her name.

I thought that was strange .

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Southern state perhaps? Lost the R to the regional dialect, like DeKalb County, Georgia lost the L sound (DeKabb).

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-gaylord-gay-lord/964940/58 "2022-05-29T18:19:45Z")

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I live in Camas, WA. People here pronounce it CAM-us (short A sound on first syllable, as in ‘cat’).

Also located here is Lacamas Lake. People here emphasize the first syllable with a short A sound. LA-cuh-mus.

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The Atlanta Journal and Constitution has a column called The Vent, and according to it, “real” southerners pronounce the L in DeKalb. Also from that source, McDonough is properly pronounced Mack Donna. Georgians do pronounce the L in walk, talk and salmon.

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Peeps around here say ‘acts’ for ‘ask’.  
I always thought it was just lazy speaking. For what ever reason.

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