# Its hard to legitimately complain about Bush **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 6, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348 "2005-09-06T15:50:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/81 "2005-09-09T04:27:04Z")
> [@Hentor The Barbarian](#): > > You express sentiments like this and yet you want me to work to change my party so it could earn your vote? No “compromise” is worth earning a vote from a piece of shit such as yourself. Well, seeing as “ignorant, racist, irresponsable commie values, fronting lunatics” seems to match well with what it is to be a Democrat now, yea. It’d make sense if you did. > [@](#): > > Only someone who will fight for the principles I believe in. So, which of the chimps represents you? After all, these are the modern face of the Democratic party. And by the by, what are the principles you believe in? Just so we’re clear. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/82 "2005-09-09T04:38:46Z")
> [@Apos](#): > > I hate Al Sharpton too. Unfortunately, the relevant company Democrats are running with are African Americans, who by and large don’t share that hate and demand his prescence. I had planned to be flippant about winning the war on poverty by Katrina killing off the poor Black folks, but I must seriously comment on Sharpton. He stated in the primary that he knew he wouldn’t win; he wanted children of color to see a Black guy running for President. He wanted them to know they could do something besides sell drugs or each other’s bodies. That’s good enough for me. When the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons act, for lack of a better term, radical, we White folks must remember that we have screwed with them and screwed with them and screwed with them. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/83 "2005-09-09T04:42:52Z")
Wesley Clark is a fucking liar. I think tat’s why he asks stupid ass questions all time time. Get some help, pal you fucking need it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/84 "2005-09-09T04:48:00Z")
> [@fushj00mang](#): > > After all, “Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.” Right? RIGHT? Check my location. I’m painfully aware that those were Dixiecrats. Their political ideas required a term to differentiate them from Democrats. That was stated George Wallace who campaigned from a wheel chair with the slogan “Vote for George Wallace-You Know Where He Stands”. How seriously could one take this guy? Lyndon B, Johnson, a true Democrat reamed Wallace a new asshole. “Yes George, I’ll endorse your bill, and we’ll have our picture taken on the schoolhose porch with a little Colored girl”. ---
**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/85 "2005-09-09T04:58:50Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Check my location. I’m painfully aware that those were Dixiecrats. Their political ideas required a term to differentiate them from Democrats. > That was stated George Wallace who campaigned from a wheel chair with the slogan “Vote for George Wallace-You Know Where He Stands”. How seriously could one take this guy? > Lyndon B, Johnson, a true Democrat reamed Wallace a new asshole. “Yes George, I’ll endorse your bill, and we’ll have our picture taken on the schoolhose porch with a little Colored girl”. Carnivorousplant, I didn’t mean to be offensive to you. I used the example of Govenor Wallace to show that sometimes sticking to your guns is exactly the wrong thing to do. Change is good. ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/86 "2005-09-09T05:03:34Z")
> [@Tracy Lord](#): > > > [@fushj00mang](#): > > > > The law says you can do it, so I back a woman’s right to choose. Doesn’t mean I like it. > > Sorry to continue this hijack, but there ain’t enough :rolleyes: in the WORLD. Good god, why would you roll your eyes at that? You can’t expect everyone to agree with you; the best thing that could possibly happen is for people who don’t like someone else’s behavior to nonetheless support their right to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/87 "2005-09-09T05:08:06Z")
Hey, why am I given a hard time and not Wesley Clark? His idiotic assertion is more dangerous than whatever the hell I say. ---
**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/88 "2005-09-09T05:13:49Z")
> [@Kyle Rayner1](#): > > Hey, why am I given a hard time and not Wesley Clark? His idiotic assertion is more dangerous than whatever the hell I say. Because you’re a moron. If you want to call Wes out on something, start another pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/89 "2005-09-09T05:23:34Z")
You don’t think Wes should be calle dout for claiming o cure schizophrenia? ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/90 "2005-09-09T05:24:46Z")
I’ll end the hijack, though. I’ll make up a nice Pit thread for him later but you’re right fushj it;s about something else. ---
**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/91 "2005-09-09T05:24:57Z")
> [@Kyle Rayner1](#): > > You don’t think Wes should be calle dout for claiming o cure schizophrenia? Hey, you want to call 'em out? The hampsters are all for it. Just go to the front page of the Pit and click “Start new thread.” Just don’t be suprised if other’s jump all over your case anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/92 "2005-09-09T05:37:34Z")
> [@jackelope](#): > > Good god, why would you roll your eyes at that? You can’t expect everyone to agree with you; the best thing that could possibly happen is for people who don’t like someone else’s behavior to nonetheless support their right to do it. Maybe I’m overreacting, but the way that read was more than just disagreement. “I guess them women have the right to do what they want – but it don’t mean I like it!” The take-your-shoes-off-and-get-back-in-the-kitchen vibe was radiating off that post. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/93 "2005-09-09T07:05:49Z")
> [@fushj00mang](#): > > Well, seeing as “ignorant, racist, irresponsable commie values, fronting lunatics” seems to match well with what it is to be a Democrat now, yea. It’d make sense if you did. > So, which of the chimps represents you? After all, these are the modern face of the Democratic party. And by the by, what are the principles you believe in? Just so we’re clear. I think you are projecting too much. [http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html](http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html) > [@](#): > > When President Bush nominated Michael Brown to head the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) in 2003, Brown’s boss at the time, Joe Allbaugh, declared, “the President couldn’t have chosen a better man to help…prepare and protect the nation.” But how well was he prepared for the job? Since Hurricane Katrina, the FEMA director has come under heavy criticism for his performance and scrutiny of his background. Now, an investigation by TIME has found discrepancies in his online legal profile and official bio, including a description of Brown released by the White House at the time of his nomination in 2001 to the job as deputy chief of FEMA. (Brown became Director of FEMA, succeeding Allbaugh, in 2003.) Only an ignorant, irresponsible leader, with crony values could have chosen that fellow to be the FEMA guy. ---
**Author:** ![initech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/439d5e/32.png) [@initech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/initech)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/94 "2005-09-09T11:42:33Z")
Fush, I know this is a pit thread and all, but I’m trying to understand your point of view. What are George Bush’s conservative values? Was it all about his position on abortion, or were there other issues? What were they? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/95 "2005-09-09T16:16:15Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > [Korean War Veterans Memorial](http://www.nps.gov/kowa/), National Park Service [hijack] The Korean War Memorial is, IMHO, one of the most moving memorials in or near the Mall. Fortunately, it’s no more than a 5-minute walk from both the Lincoln Memorial and the Vietnam Memorial. So if you’re ever on a tourist trip to DC, it won’t cost you much additional time or energy to see for yourself. You may now resume your food fight. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348/96 "2005-09-09T17:58:56Z")
> [@fushj00mang](#): > > Carnivorousplant, I didn’t mean to be offensive to you. I used the example of Govenor Wallace to show that sometimes sticking to your guns is exactly the wrong thing to do. Change is good. Oops. Thanks, I apologize. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hard-to-legitimately-complain-about-bush/320348.md?page=4)