# It's Hegseth we need to get. {As of Nov 9, 2026; Rep Thomas Massie (GOP) filed articles of impeachment for Hegseth.} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 30, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720 "2025-04-30T18:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/41 "2026-11-10T02:47:37Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > During the GOP primary, Hegseth campaigned on behalf of Ed Gallrein, who went on to defeat Massie. I initially read that as [Ed Gein](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein) and did a genuine double-take. Stupid brain 🙄. The worst part is that with this regime, if that was actually possible I somehow would not be shocked. “He may skin people, but at least he’s not woke!” ---
**Author:** ![MysteriousCritter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@MysteriousCritter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteriousCritter)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/42 "2026-11-10T03:33:32Z")
The satisfactory performance was for his combat infantryman’s badge. The first bullet in the regulation describing who is eligible for the award is > Be an infantry Soldier satisfactorily performing infantry duties. > That order is Army speak saying he met the minimum CIB requirements not an evaluation of relative performance. The narrative for his Bronze Stars starts with “Exceptionally meritorious service.” The exceptionally meritorious part is basically boiler plate language for a Bronze Star. Somebody cut and pasted that into the award recommendation form when they decided to recommend him for a Bronze Star instead of an Army Commendation medal for an end of tour award. If you try to read Army English using standard English meanings, you’re likely to end up confused. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/43 "2026-11-10T12:11:17Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > I’m curious why he was impeached now and and they didn’t wait until after the new congress is seated. In addition to what’s already been said, I’ve seen someone opine that the GOP might go along with it now because it’ll be easier to approve a replacement now. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/44 "2026-11-10T13:30:52Z")
This was an unexpected turn today indeed. Some bullets from the NPR article. [Massie files articles of impeachment against Hegseth : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2026/11/09/nx-s1-6034483/thomas-massie-impeachment-pete-hegseth) - 3 charges for illegally waging war against Iran in violation of the War Powers Resolution - 1 charge for ignoring laws designed to minimize civilian casualties - 1 charge for overseeing “extrajudicial killings” in the Caribbean Sea and Eastern Pacific Ocean with strikes on alleged drug boats - 1 charge for suppressing free speech, brought in connection to the effort to punish Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., for a video telling service members they can refuse illegal orders - 1 charge for the capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro without congressional authorization - 1 charge for illegally waging war against Yemen in violation of the War Powers Resolution ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/45 "2026-11-10T13:35:05Z")
Sounds impressive, but the reality is that Hegseth wouldn’t even scratch his ass unless Trump wanted him to do it. I assume he’s supposed to be the sacrificial lamb, and I further assume that Trump will play the “victim” whose trust was betrayed by a wayward lackey? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/46 "2026-11-10T17:24:28Z")
Todd Blanche has helpfully stated that everything Pete Hegeth has done is because “he’s executing on President Trump’s mission and what President Trump has said we should do.” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Mb57UyMBkNA/maxresdefault.jpg "'THAT'S NOT TRUE': Blanche FIRES BACK at Hegseth impeachment push") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb57UyMBkNA) Good to know that if Congress manages to demonstrate that Hegseth committed war crimes, they were done on Trump’s orders. Thanks for the assist, Todd! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/47 "2026-11-10T17:45:14Z")
That weasel is probably trying to establish some dumb idea of presidential immunity. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/48 "2026-11-10T19:20:49Z")
From Hegseth’s whiny press conference: > **[Hegseth’s answer to impeachment push? Giving a deranged speech.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/11/10/800126292/whitehouse/hegseths-answer-to-impeachment-push-giving-a-deranged-speech/)** > > Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth held a “news conference” on Tuesday in which he sought to defend himself from the eight impeachment charges the House will vote on Tuesday afternoon, saying that the war… > “And on the eve of Veterans Day, these resolutions tell every one of them that their service was a crime.” > > Hegseth **[went](https://x.com/atrupar/status/2120143684498755696)** on, “ **If they want to come for the warriors, they’re going to have to come through me**.” Well yes, Petey, going through _you_ is kind of the point. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/49 "2026-11-10T20:26:54Z")
He doesn’t sound worried. No, sir. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/50 "2026-11-10T21:24:43Z")
The initial impeachment vote is today. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/51 "2026-11-10T22:40:35Z")
The first vote is to refer to committee is happening now. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/52 "2026-11-10T22:46:15Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Hegseth **[went](https://x.com/atrupar/status/2120143684498755696)** on, “ **If they want to come for the warriors, they’re going to have to come through me**.” He really whiffed on an opportunity to drop some Ezekiel 25:17 (Gospel of Tarantino) here. How’s that great vengeance and furious anger taste, Pete? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/53 "2026-11-10T23:07:54Z")
Only 1 republican voted against sending it to committee, so the impeachment has been squashed by the republican majority. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/54 "2026-11-10T23:12:01Z")
So, what now? Try again in January? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/55 "2026-11-10T23:31:24Z")
Were they voting in each article individually or all of them at once? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/56 "2026-11-10T23:32:28Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Only 1 republican voted against sending it to committee, so the impeachment has been squashed by the republican majority. Wait, what? If only one Republican voted against, then most voted for? So isn’t it sent to the committee now? Which I would assume is one of the steps in the process? ---
**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/57 "2026-11-10T23:35:54Z")
If I’m understanding correctly, I think the idea is that it will die in the Republican-majority committee (although I don’t know who is on said committee). ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/58 "2026-11-10T23:36:09Z")
It is sent to a committee that exists until Jan.. Judiciary committee, Jim Jordan is the chair. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/59 "2026-11-10T23:39:10Z")
I doubt it there are 67 votes in the Senate. That would take, what? 22 crossovers? Now, next year, if/when we get 55, it would take a mere 12. In other news, Massie is a brave man. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/60 "2026-11-11T00:50:02Z")
He also, politically speaking, has nothing to lose by doing this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720.md?page=4)