# It's Hegseth we need to get. {As of Nov 9, 2026; Rep Thomas Massie (GOP) filed articles of impeachment for Hegseth.} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 30, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720 "2025-04-30T18:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/101 "2026-11-12T01:42:11Z")
But that shouldn’t have stopped them: After all, Massie’s a lame duck, too. If you have any principles, then use all of your time, including your lame-duck months, to advance those principles. Heck, especially your lame-duck time. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/102 "2026-11-12T01:42:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > > [@steronz](#): > > > > You can probably clean house on polymarket with that level of confidence – it currently shows a 27% chance of removal by 31 March. > > I’m not talking about March, I’m talking about having the House impeach by the end of December, 2026. That was never going to happen Plus, I doubt that the 27% chance is “impeachment and removal through a vote on a trial in the Senate”. If so and I were a political better in a fair market, I’d bet against that, (but neither of those are true). 27% chance of him being _gone, whatever the reason_ from his post being 27%, on the other hand, yeah, that sounds about right. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/103 "2026-11-12T01:44:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > If you have any principles, then use all of your time, including your lame-duck months, to advance those principles. “Well THERE’s your problem…” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/104 "2026-11-12T13:40:05Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Og help him if he tries to retaliate in any way. I’ll bet he orders the guard to be fired. The guard’s superior officer will decline, so he will be removed. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/105 "2026-11-12T14:39:18Z")
I doubt the guard will be fired because that would be a public relations nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/106 "2026-11-12T15:11:18Z")
That’s never stopped him before. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/107 "2026-11-12T15:14:13Z")
I agree. He realizes he’s on thin ice. He will keep his powder dry on this matter because of self preservation, not because of any sense of fairness. If the politics shifted, he’d schedule a televised execution. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/108 "2026-11-12T19:20:40Z")
Who took and released that video? Just _today_ there was a ceremony with Hegseth honoring that soldier [Hegseth awards medal to guard who scolded him at Tomb of Unknown Soldier](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/hegseth-awards-medal-to-guard-who-scolded-him-at-tomb-of-unknown-soldier/ar-AA2hiTxj?ocid=BingNewsSerp) that seemed just a bit too convenient considering all the anti-military crap he has been pulling lately. Was this staged, or am I paranoid? ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/109 "2026-11-12T19:26:39Z")
I vote staged. But in the next impeachment go-around, add “doesn’t know how to behave like an adult in public” to the articles, and cite this incident. Yeah, I know, that’s not technically a crime. Still, a girl can dream. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/110 "2026-11-12T19:42:26Z")
Was a medal ceremony _staged_? How could it not be? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/111 "2026-11-12T19:47:14Z")
No. Was the whole thing staged to make Hegseth look good, from the conveniently filmed video from an anonymous source, to the filmed yelling by the soldier, to the full ceremony before the cameras just a day later? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/112 "2026-11-12T20:00:40Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Was the whole thing staged to make Hegseth look good, from the conveniently filmed video from an anonymous source, to the filmed yelling by the soldier, to the full ceremony before the cameras just a day later? I suppose it’s possible, but I don’t think anyone in this administration could successfully formulate a plan to bust out of a wet paper sack, so I’m going to have to go with unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/113 "2026-11-12T20:02:15Z")
Whereas I find the speed and convenience of the whole thing to be even more unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/114 "2026-11-12T20:06:03Z")
Hegseth just happened to come up with a good response to his embarrassing, disrespectful blunder. Giving the guy a medal- that’s a good response. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/115 "2026-11-12T20:10:24Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > ELEVEN House Democrats missed the vote – which would have been more than enough to defeat the motion had they been present. Several cited “traffic” as the reason they couldn’t make it in time to the vote (why were they even away from the Capitol if they knew votes were imminent?). Nancy Pelosi wasn’t even in DC. That’s because the current Republican speaker of the house rushed the vote specifically to catch the Democrats out of the Capitol. Blaming the Dems for this is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/116 "2026-11-12T20:14:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Whereas I find the speed and convenience of the whole thing to be even more unlikely. I don’t think it’s convenient at all; regardless of the response, Hegseth looks even worse than before. The last thing he needs right now is more bad press. As for the speed, this is what we call “scrambling” or “damage control”. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/117 "2026-11-12T20:16:07Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Hegseth just happened to come up with a good response to his embarrassing, disrespectful blunder. Giving the guy a medal- that’s a good response. You’re right, that could be the best possible response to that situation. Which means that I highly doubt it was Hegseth’s idea. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/118 "2026-11-12T20:16:17Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Hegseth just happened to come up with a good response to his embarrassing, disrespectful blunder. Giving the guy a medal- that’s a good response. What Medal was it? > [@Babale](#): > > That’s because the current Republican speaker of the house rushed the vote specifically to catch the Democrats out of the Capitol. Blaming the Dems for this is ridiculous. And even if they had all been there, glued to their seats- still the same outcome. I think that that the GOP dumped it in Committee is a better outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/119 "2026-11-12T20:18:01Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > What Medal was it? As the article linked by @Czarcasm clearly states it’s the > prestigious Joint Service Commendation Medal ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2026, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720/120 "2026-11-12T20:19:16Z")
> **[Commendation Medal | Joint Service](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commendation_Medal#Joint_Service)** > > The Joint Service Commendation Medal (JSCM) was authorized on June 25, 1963, and is awarded in the name of the secretary of defense to members of the Armed Forces of the United States who, after January 1, 1963, distinguished themselves by meritorious achievement or service in a joint duty capacity. This award is intended for senior service on a joint military staff and is senior in precedence to service-specific Commendation Medals. As such, it is worn above the service Commendation Medals on a ... Which is a little weird, since the Tomb Guard isn’t a joint billet. I would have expected the Army Commendation Medal. Maybe it’s the Joint award because it was rushed out by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, not through the proper Department of the Army channels. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-hegseth-we-need-to-get-as-of-nov-9-2026-rep-thomas-massie-gop-filed-articles-of-impeachment-for-hegseth/1017720.md?page=7)