# It's illegal in my state, but ... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449 "2015-10-22T12:46:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/61 "2015-10-24T02:01:43Z")
Even on boards dedicated to that sort of thing, it’s generally poor etiquette to repeatedly post your sexual fantasies. It’s not particularly interesting to people that aren’t you, and nobody wants to play the role of an extra in your private fantasy time. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/62 "2015-10-25T18:29:16Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > That would be wrong, unless she was an adult when she died. What if he kept the corpse around for a few years? In the freezer, maybe? I think we need pictures of the cousin, living of course. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/63 "2015-10-26T12:46:20Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Necrophelia is illegal in Wisconsin. [Wisconsin Legislature: 940.225](http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/940/II/225) > > In 2006, three young bucks tried to dig up a young woman for, well, you know . . . . They were caught before they could get into her casket. Two of them were charged with third degree sexual assault. The court of first instance dismissed the charges by interpreting 940.225 (7) as only applying to murder-rape matters, rather than necrophilia alone (the distinction being between an assault on a living person that ended with death and rape, verses an assault on an already most assuredly previously dead person. In 2008, the Court of Appeal overturned the lower court, in a mixed decision written by the judge who is now the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Wisconsin, reasoning that dead bodies cannot give consent, and the statute specifically covers sexual assault whether the person is dead or alive. Charges were reinstated, and last year (2014) the two men with stiffies were convicted of trying to sexually assault a stiff. > > So let that be a warning for you budding necrophiles. Be sure to bring a spiritual medium along with you to get consent from your dead darling before you do the sick foot deep dirty deed. I’d heard the case had been thrown out of a lower court. I had no idea that this many years later it was still winding its way through the system. Hmmm… wouldn’t there be a statute of limitations? Something approximating the freshness date stamped on all the corpses? ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/64 "2015-10-26T20:01:55Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Just in case you swing that way, sex with corpses is legal in Wisconsin. That explains their motto: **You’ll come for the cheese, but you’ll stay for the necrophilia** ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/65 "2015-10-27T00:52:32Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Well, if this thread was “Do you think she would feel uncomfortable with me professing my feelings” then I would agree with you. But it’s not. > > You seem to have some serious issues if you read “she is so, so beautiful” as drooling. And if you feel an older guy shouldn’t think younger women are beautiful. He is an adult, and he is describing his feelings about another adult. If you have hang-ups with the specifics, then that is your problem. I don’t think being creeped out at the idea that a much older cousin wants to have sex with you means a person has “serious issues”. Anyone else agree? Also, what **sven** said. We’re not _Penthouse_ letters. Maybe it “helps him” to constantly talk about this, but that doesn’t mean it’s not squicky. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/66 "2015-10-27T15:30:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I don’t think being creeped out at the idea that a much older cousin wants to have sex with you means a person has “serious issues”. Anyone else agree? Well, good thing I didn’t say that. In fact I said the opposite of that. > [@](#): > > Also, what **sven** said. We’re not _Penthouse_ letters. Maybe it “helps him” to constantly talk about this, but that doesn’t mean it’s not squicky. So what is ‘squicky’ about it? The fact that he is posting it on a message board? I admit I wouldn’t think to do that, but people do a lot of things I wouldn’t do without it being ‘squicky’. Like calling things ‘squicky’ for instance. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/67 "2015-10-27T21:04:47Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > … is there really anything morally wrong with me having a crush on my first cousin? Which state is it? You’re info says WA, does that mean Washington state? [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state#cite_note-142) says sex between cousins is not longer illegal in Washington state, though marriage is. 😕 Which kind of sounds ass backwards if you ask me. Fuck your brains out, cuz, just don’t make an honest woman of her!:smack: ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/68 "2015-10-27T21:10:45Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Which state is it? You’re info says WA, does that mean Washington state? > > [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state#cite_note-142) says sex between cousins is not longer illegal in Washington state, though marriage is. > > 😕 > Which kind of sounds ass backwards if you ask me. Fuck your brains out, cuz, just don’t make an honest woman of her!:smack: Oops. Already addressed earlier. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/69 "2015-10-28T08:53:03Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > … is there really anything morally wrong with me having a crush on my first cousin? Yep. I’ll say that, in general, having a crush on someone is a kind of self-destructive state. It messes with your mind. It makes you contribute less and use more. I think that being a looser is morally wrong, even if you didn’t cause it and can’t help it. To return to a state of grace, you need to admit that it is wrong, and that you have no control over it. You’re still fucked of course, but morally you’re in the clear. Myself, I lost my library books, my tools were stolen, I missed my assignments and I had nightmares. Having a crush on someone was interesting, but not a state I approve of. ---
**Author:** ![riveingimsure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@riveingimsure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/riveingimsure)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/70 "2015-10-28T08:58:47Z")
Yes it would be awesome to have a open adult discussion about what ever with out being hampered by bureaucratic censorship. Lets weird the place out without becoming weird ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/71 "2015-10-28T19:57:56Z")
> [@riveingimsure](#): > > Yes it would be awesome to have a open adult discussion about what ever with out being hampered by bureaucratic censorship. > > Lets weird the place out without becoming weird Who said anything about censorship? ---
**Author:** ![Beelzebubba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Beelzebubba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beelzebubba)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/72 "2015-10-29T08:38:04Z")
I have always had what I call a “cousin crush” on my 1st cousin, once-removed (my father’s 1st cousin). But it wasn’t anything sexual or romantic (she’s female, I’m a gay man and she’s 15 years older than me). By “cousin crush” I just mean that I idolized her when I was a kid and thought she was the coolest person in the world. She modeled in her teens and early 20s (even though she still has no clue that she’s a knockout at 56). Then she moved to Los Angeles, from rural North Georgia, to pursue a career in television after working for Ted Turner in Atlanta for five years. Now she’s 56 and I’m soon-to-be-41 and we’re best friends. As for any sexual interest in any of my cousins (I don’t have any 1st cousins, so my parents’ 1st cousins are the closest), gross! Or, in the words of Tobias Beecher on the HBO show ‘Oz’, “I could never be THAT horny!” ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/73 "2015-10-31T07:03:42Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > But she is so, so beautiful. And she’s been married and divorced. It’s not wrong to have a crush or marry your first cousin. Your sentence, quoted, though, is pretty fucking skeevy. It makes me think that you are preparing a soundproof basement somewhere… ---
**Author:** ![Beelzebubba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Beelzebubba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beelzebubba)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/74 "2015-10-31T10:58:07Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > It’s not wrong to…marry your first cousin. In some states, it is illegal to marry your first cousin. If any genetic or hereditary diseases or defects run in your family and you intend to have children together, the probability of passing those on are exponentially increased! Just to provide a real-world illustration, I’ll share something that I have only told two other people lin my entire life… My paternal grandfather’s parents were first cousins. My great-grandmother suffered from one or more psychological disorders. Based on what I’ve learned about her over the years, I am convinced that she was bi-polar and possibly schizophrenic. She killed herself at the age of 56 when my dad was just a tyke. She had just been released from one of numerous stays in the state mental hospital. My great-grandfather’s mother and great-grandmother’s father were siblings. My great-grandparents had three children. Child #1- My (Great) Uncle Lawrence- average intelligence, suffered from severe depression most of his life, very short-tempered and prone to inappropriate outbursts and he was sterile! Child #2- My grandfather (Poppa)- miraculously, my Poppa had above-average intelligence and was a very successful businessman, he also was incredibly kind and compassionate and never showed any indication of any mental or psychological issues; hypertension and heart disease were very common in my great-grandparents’ family and my Poppa suffered his first stroke at 48, first heart attack at 53 and had a total of at least four strokes and three heart attacks with the final one taking his life at the age of 67. He was thin, fit, hard-working/active and ate very healthy, so his lifestyle or habits played little if any part in his health problems. Child #3- My Aunt Betty- she was an ‘accident’ born when my great-grandmother was 42 years old and 11 years after my Poppa. She was borderline mentally retarded with an IQ of 72 (below 70 is usually considered ‘retarded’). She was a pitiful soul and I always hated my great-grandparents (both of whom died decades before I was born) for having her considering the life she had. She married a man who prostituted her regularly and when he wasn’t renting her out, he used her for a punching bag! He finally went to prison after he tried to kill her by running over her with his truck. She suffered brain damage and numerous permanent physical injuries that left her crippled for the rest of her life. Making matters worse, she had a son that the state finally removed from her care at the age of 4. His father’s brother and sister-in-law adopted him and raised him well but he still isn’t quite ‘right’ and has struggled with major depression and at least two suicide attempts over his 57 years. A shallow gene pool is never a good idea! A substantial and growing number of experts believe that the violent behavior and acts committed by Muslim extermists are related to the high incidence of marriage between first cousins in those countries! > [@](#): > > Your sentence, quoted, though, is pretty fucking skeevy. It makes me think that you are preparing a soundproof basement somewhere… It’s right up there with “put the lotion in the basket”…and I feel like I need to bathe in Clorox right now… Moral of this story- there are millions of people out there to fuck…not going outside of your own family is just disgusting laziness, at best, and it can literally curse future generations, at worst… ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/75 "2015-11-02T10:09:46Z")
> [@Beelzebubba](#): > > In some states, it is illegal to marry your first cousin. i didn’t say it wasn’t illegal-I said it wasn’t wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/76 "2015-11-02T19:01:38Z")
Doing something illegal is doing something wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/77 "2015-11-02T19:04:41Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Doing something illegal is doing something wrong. No. No it isn’t. Although there is considerable overlap between morality and the law, it’s not a perfect correlation. Smoking marijuana, as one example. There are others. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/78 "2015-11-02T19:15:30Z")
Speeding on an empty road to get a dying person to the hospital? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/79 "2015-11-02T19:38:24Z")
If they’re dying, there’s no reason to speed. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449/80 "2015-11-02T19:49:16Z")
First cousin? No, that’s normal. _Baby_ cousin? Eh… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-illegal-in-my-state-but/735449.md?page=5)