# It's iron, not iorn and siren, not siern!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 31, 2002, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659 "2002-05-31T01:22:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2002, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/21 "2002-06-01T22:28:15Z")

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Marge: Look at all the foilage, Lisa.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2002, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/22 "2002-06-01T22:32:28Z")

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I saw a show on TV once, I think it was on the Nashville Network, where there was a guy talking about “farms”.  
He was mainly talking about the importance of “farms” in the history of the US, especially in the frontier days. I joined the show in the middle, so I thought he was talking about agriculture until he showed a museum display of antique rifles. “Lotta histry,” he intoned, “lotta histry”

Firearms! He was talking about firearms! Mushmouthed buckskin-wearing drugstore cowboy was pronouncing it “farms”.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/23 "2002-06-02T01:00:13Z")

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I didn’t expect this kind of response. Dopers are unpredictable.

I always knew I was right about si-ren. I-urn still bugs me, but since it’s right I’ll go with it.

“Every since” grates on my nerves, so does “nucyuler” Even experienced military people say, and they should know better.

I prefer “meer” for mirror. If I tried to pronounce every word just right I would sound like a Connecticut yankee (no offense, but I just wouldn’t be able to stand myself). I’d rather sound like myself, an Ohio yankee.

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/24 "2002-06-02T01:15:28Z")

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Can’t exscape ourt little walking liberry 😃

Hell, everyone in the national raffle 'sociation knows about farm saftey 😃

What I want to know is how the british get “sinjin” from St. John.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/25 "2002-06-02T01:15:31Z")

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And for the love of God, people, it’s wash, not warsh!

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/26 "2002-06-02T01:23:58Z")

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> And for the love of God, people, it’s wash, not warsh!

Oh, I hate that one! :mad:

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/27 "2002-06-02T03:56:40Z")

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The other day I was standing outside a coin shop, while some women, obviously tourists, were debating whether or not to go the “coy-in shop”. What the hell?

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> And don’t get me started on Worcestershire.

That one’s simple: “wis-tah-shuh”.

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/28 "2002-06-02T06:50:13Z")

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And to all of you from NYC… **IT’S NOT CAWFEE!!!**

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**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/29 "2002-06-02T17:19:20Z")

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It’s **Wyom-inG** not **Wyo-me**

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**i-d-ah** NOT **i-d-er**!  
“warsh”…aaarrgh, I hate that one!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/30 "2002-06-02T17:25:43Z")

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Oh yeah, pumice.

It’s “puh-miss” NOT “pyoo-miss”. Remember the Lava soap commercials?

Although, I’d like to see it changed to “pyoo-mee-chay” with an Italian accent. Kinda like “fra-gee-lay” (fragile) from _A Christmas Story_. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/31 "2002-06-02T19:32:03Z")

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There’s a city in Southern California by the name of _San Bernardino_

Now, the locals say _Sann Bern-DEE-no_ How in the heck do you get that out of the name?

When I pronounce it correctly, _Sann Bern-nard-EE-no_, I get funny looks, especially from my wife. But then again, she gives me funny looks over almost everything I do.

😛

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**Author:** ![Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Violet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/32 "2002-06-02T21:31:26Z")

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> the locals say Sann Bern-DEE-no How in the heck do you get that out of the name?

Or “San Berdoo!”  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/33 "2002-06-02T21:54:13Z")

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I, too, hate and despise people who say things different from the way that I say them. The fools! Only the way I do things is proper, to do otherwise is a sign of ignorance, poor manners, and possibly inbreeding.

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**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2002, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/34 "2002-06-03T14:18:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*I, too, hate and despise people who say things different from the way that I say them. The fools! Only the way I do things is proper, to do otherwise is a sign of ignorance, poor manners, and possibly inbreeding. \*\*

Damn right!  
:rolleyes:

For the record. my DH is the one who says “Wyomy” and “idear”. While I do not despise him, I am not quite sure about the inbreeding.:eek:

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2002, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/35 "2002-06-04T04:31:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rico \*  
> \*\*There’s a city in Southern California by the name of _San Bernardino_
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> Now, the locals say _Sann Bern-DEE-no_ How in the heck do you get that out of the name?
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> When I pronounce it correctly, _Sann Bern-nard-EE-no_, I get funny looks, especially from my wife. But then again, she gives me funny looks over almost everything I do.
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> 😛 \*\*

There’s a small town in Central Texas called Schwertner, which (according to the German) ought to be pronounced “Shhvehrt-ner”. But everyone, including second or third generation German immigrants, calls it “Sweat-ner”.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2002, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/36 "2002-06-04T17:08:52Z")

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Everyone says Missippi instead of Mississippi.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/37 "2002-06-04T19:31:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lyllyan \*  
> \*\*  
> I go positively “nukleer” when I hear someone say “strenth” and “axe”, as in “Kin I axe you a question?”
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> And it is “pah-con”, not “pee-can”.😛 \*\*

Yup. Only here it’s a little more like peh-CAHN.

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**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2002, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-iron-not-iorn-and-siren-not-siern/111659/38 "2002-06-04T20:03:30Z")

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“Realtor” not “real-a-ter”

“Athlete” (not, as someone above pointed out “ath-a-lete”).

And “jewelry” - not “jewel-er-y”

Just as they’re spelled, folks. In all three cases, if people pronounced them properly, chances are they wouldn’t misspell them.

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