# It's just a fucking teevee show, you schmucks.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 5, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903 "2006-12-05T03:40:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/1 "2006-12-05T03:40:58Z")

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I used to enjoy the _Heroes_ threads, but lately it’s impossible to get through them without wading through six pages of asinine bitchiness from the likes of **[Otto](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8025221&postcount=46)** and **[Meeko](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8025212&postcount=41)**, not to mention all the myriad doofi who constantly bitch about character nicknames or complain about the damn scientifical accuramacy of a comic book show.

Listen up, you brain-dead basement-dwelling imbeciles:

\*\*IT’S TELEVISION.

CHILLAX.\*\*

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/2 "2006-12-05T03:48:20Z")

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I agree about **Meeko**. Half the time I wonder if we’ve even watched the same show. Then I wonder if he watches it for the sole purpose of posting crap in the thread just to piss everyone else off.

And what is with the bitching about nicknames? Anyone with half a brain who’s been keeping up with the thread will be able to figure out what people are talking about. If not, just ask. People will answer obligingly. No big deal.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/3 "2006-12-05T04:11:58Z")

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'S what you get for wandering into what I call the “con threads.” If this was a webcam message board, those threads would be full of 25-40 year old men dressed up like [Tron Guy.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron_Guy)😉

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**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/4 "2006-12-05T04:20:49Z")

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Yeah, I was going to post this about BSG too.

I’d hate to think what these people do in the rest of the week, if one hour of television on Fridays affects their happiness so much.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/5 "2006-12-05T06:10:36Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
'S what you get for wandering into what I call the “con threads.” If this was a webcam message board, those threads would be full of 25-40 year old men dressed up like [Tron Guy.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron_Guy)😉  
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There’s a reason we don’t get to submit our posts as audio files.

Half the board would be posting in Comic Book Guy’s voice.

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**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/6 "2006-12-05T21:15:15Z")

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I can’t stand the cutesy Television Without Pity-wannabe-ness, with the nicknames and everyone trying to outsnark eachother rather than just discussing the show in plain language. The silly character nicknames were _maybe_ funny for like a week. Now they’re just rote.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/7 "2006-12-05T21:34:37Z")

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My workmates with whom I usually discuss the show are absent today, so I’m stuck with that thread. Those two aren’t the only two. Plus the depth of the geekery and fandom in those (and the _Lost_ and the _Battlestar Galactica_) threads makes it a tough read for those who simply enjoy the show and wish to discuss. Maybe we need two threads, one for fans who enjoy the show, and one for fans who obsess over the show.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/8 "2006-12-05T21:45:42Z")

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The nicknames would probably be fine if everyone used the same ones consistently. But they don’t - each week someone will use their own version of a nickname about a character who has already got several ‘established’ nicknames. It gets very confusing when you’re puzzling half the time who the hell they’re talking about.

And of course, now we all know their real names, so we don’t even need the nicknames anymore.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/9 "2006-12-05T21:53:59Z")

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[QUOTE=friedo]  
… not to mention all the myriad doofi who constantly bitch about character nicknames…  
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That’d be me, the myriad doufus. I hate character nicknames for shows like this, and I’m always the first one bitching about their use. It’s one of the reasons I quit posting over at TWoP.  
As **Guanolad** pointed out, there are (or were) too many nicknames for all the characters (although I rather liked Prognosti-Painter), and it gets too confusing when the show is new and you’re still figuring out the actual names.

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t see the need for cutsey nicknames.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/10 "2006-12-05T21:54:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Autumn Almanac]  
I can’t stand the cutesy Television Without Pity-wannabe-ness, with the nicknames and everyone trying to outsnark eachother rather than just discussing the show in plain language. The silly character nicknames were _maybe_ funny for like a week. Now they’re just rote.  
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\*\* Preach it, Brother!\*\* 🆒

One of the _“myriad doofi”_ checking in. 😛 Look, I watch the shows, but I am not obsessed with them- which is why I don’t like nicknames that are impossible to figure out. It _is_ “just television”. But sometimes- since I don’t TIVO and watch it over and over in slo-mo- I miss something, and would like to read a clarification, or just give my un-informed opinion. And- withOUT having to decrypt the posts, OK? 😛

And, this _is_ the SDMB, let’s not copy-cat another board named above. Sure, they like doing that- and that’s fine- _for them_. But they is them and we is us. We have enough of our own weirdness (Hi Opal!) going on without bringing it over from other boards. Let’s at least be _original_ in our weirdness, eh? 😃

I’d feel \*damn stupid \* for posting in another MB and putting “Hi Opal” as #3. (Well, I guess Opal has her own MB, and it’d be OK there, right?)

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/11 "2006-12-05T22:22:26Z")

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Not that I expect anyone to care, but the nicknames are what stopped me from reading and responding to those threads.

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**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/12 "2006-12-05T22:33:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Smeghead]  
Not that I expect anyone to care, but the nicknames are what stopped me from reading and responding to those threads.  
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I think it’s spoiled the actual show for me. I don’t generally have time to follow TV shows as they air; I like to catch up after the DVD sets are released. I like serialized dramas and I don’t mind letting my sci-fi/anime/Whedon/fanboy flag fly once in a while. _Heroes_ was something I planned on checking out, but the ultra-obnoxiously cliquish vibe around the show and its fans has pretty turned me off of the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/13 "2006-12-06T00:13:18Z")

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[QUOTE=friedo]  
I used to enjoy the _Heroes_ threads, but lately it’s impossible to get through them without wading through six pages of asinine bitchiness from the likes of **[Otto](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8025221&postcount=46)** and **[Meeko](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8025212&postcount=41)**, not to mention all the myriad doofi who constantly bitch about character nicknames or complain about the damn scientifical accuramacy of a comic book show.

Listen up, you brain-dead basement-dwelling imbeciles:

\*\*IT’S TELEVISION.

CHILLAX.\*\*

Thank you.  
[/QUOTE]  
I noticed last night in particular the mood in the thread turned testy really fast. I’m not sure what’s up with that. Maybe it’s the holiday season making people cranky but people are nitpicking the wording of each other’s posts like it’s a GD thread.

[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
And what is with the bitching about nicknames? Anyone with half a brain who’s been keeping up with the thread will be able to figure out what people are talking about. If not, just ask. People will answer obligingly. No big deal.  
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I don’t get it either. It takes more time to bitch about it than it does to pick its meaning out of context.

[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Plus the depth of the geekery and fandom in those (and the _Lost_ and the _Battlestar Galactica_) threads makes it a tough read for those who simply enjoy the show and wish to discuss. Maybe we need two threads, one for fans who enjoy the show, and one for fans who obsess over the show.  
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I don’t read _Lost_ threads much anymore because I no longer care about what people obsess over and it would make me a real dick to pop in there and take the time to bitch about how much I don’t care about what everyone else is obsessing over.

If I liked an episode and for some silly reason felt the need to pop in and say “I liked this ep” there’s nothing stopping me. But you want some sort of converstion out of that? Would it go something like this:

“I love this show!”  
“I love it too!”  
“I love it more!”  
“No, me!”  
“I love it like, ten times more than you!”  
“No way, I like it, like times infinity!”

What an incredibly boring thread that would be. But go for it, by all means.

Seriously, where do you draw the line between what you consider to be “enjoying” the show but not “obsessing” over the show? What exactly are people going to be allowed to discuss in your thread world?

[QUOTE=GuanoLad]  
And of course, now we all know their real names, so we don’t even need the nicknames anymore.  
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What’s Haitian’s name again? I forget.

[QUOTE=Smeghead]  
Not that I expect anyone to care, but the nicknames are what stopped me from reading and responding to those threads.  
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That I can understand.

[QUOTE=Autumn Almanac]  
I think it’s spoiled the actual show for me.  
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_That_, I can’t understand. You’d let the conduct of a TV show thread spoil the actual TV show for you?

I stopped reading the _Lost_ threads because I no longer fricking care what the goddamned numbers mean. I didn’t stop watching the show. I stopped reading the threads.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/14 "2006-12-06T00:32:40Z")

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[QUOTE=friedo]  
I used to enjoy the _Heroes_ threads, but lately it’s impossible to get through them without wading through six pages of asinine bitchiness from the likes of **[Otto](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8025221&postcount=46)** and **[Meeko](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8025212&postcount=41)**, not to mention all the myriad doofi who constantly bitch about character nicknames or complain about the damn scientifical accuramacy of a comic book show.  
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I won’t miss you one bit.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/15 "2006-12-06T00:34:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Autumn Almanac]  
I can’t stand the cutesy Television Without Pity-wannabe-ness, with the nicknames and everyone trying to outsnark eachother rather than just discussing the show in plain language. The silly character nicknames were _maybe_ funny for like a week. Now they’re just rote.  
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You either.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/16 "2006-12-06T13:10:22Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]

Seriously, where do you draw the line between what you consider to be “enjoying” the show but not “obsessing” over the show? What exactly are people going to be allowed to discuss in your thread world?  
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Good, light-hearted discussion of show:  
[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
True. I remember Nathan saying something like “I’ve seen your faces, I’ll hunt you down and kill you.” I guess that’s off his to-do list now, although it would have been cool if Nathan had bumped into AED at the police station.

I wonder if AED is going to step in and try to help Peter and then he and Nathan will have to make nice.  
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Other small discussions, like whether Niki / Jessica are two distinct entities or a MPD situation - fine.

However, when someone has watched the episode 16 times before posting Tuesday morning plus read the transcript…I can’t discuss with that person. For example, time travel in fiction just _is_. You have to take it for granted. Once you start to overanalyze it, it is no longer fun. Trying to explain why it worked one way there and another way here in the context of the show…too much.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/17 "2006-12-06T13:40:50Z")

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[QUOTE=friedo]  
**CHILLAX.**  
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You die!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/18 "2006-12-06T13:42:15Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
For example, time travel in fiction just _is_. You have to take it for granted. Once you start to overanalyze it, it is no longer fun.  
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[Austin Powers] Hold on, I’ve gone cross-eyed.[/AP]

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/19 "2006-12-06T14:01:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
I won’t miss you one bit.  
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Yes, but that’s because your SDMB presence has always been that of a self-absorbed twit with all the social skills of a developmentally challenged two year old. We wouldn’t expect you to tone down your private little slap fests in Cafe Society threads just because they add nothing and annoy those around you.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-fucking-teevee-show-you-schmucks/382903/20 "2006-12-06T14:54:29Z")

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I don’t care what you say. I still want to see a man fight a dinosaur with a sword.

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