# It's meat. Get over it. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 21, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144 "2013-07-21T23:40:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mischievous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mischievous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mischievous)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/21 "2013-07-22T02:35:52Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > So what are balut? A little creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/22 "2013-07-22T02:40:50Z")
Unless the fish has Heterosporis. Then it, or at least parts of it, stop being meat. ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/23 "2013-07-22T02:43:44Z")
I was thinking about posting a similar rant. Very true. ---
**Author:** ![Tacit\_Knowledge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@Tacit\_Knowledge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tacit_Knowledge)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/24 "2013-07-22T02:44:52Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > So what are balut? Crunchy? ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/25 "2013-07-22T03:39:50Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > So what are balut? Proof that if you’re hungry enough, you’ll eat most anything. Sort of like those Ham and Lima Beans c-rations. Or maybe even Dwarf Bread. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/26 "2013-07-22T03:56:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Ninja-ed. Drat. ninjas are meat too. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/27 "2013-07-22T04:20:22Z")
It actually turns out that [beaver are fish.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver#In_dietary_law) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/28 "2013-07-22T04:21:44Z")
So, are cucumbers fruit or vegetables? ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/29 "2013-07-22T04:42:33Z")
What about the muscle of snakes and lizards, and other “evil” animals. Also meat? ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/30 "2013-07-22T04:57:40Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > So what are balut? tasty? ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/31 "2013-07-22T05:28:00Z")
I was raised in a vegetarian household. In elementary school, other kids would try to argue that I shouldn’t be eating peanut butter or rice and beans because according to our textbook peanuts and beans were included in the “meat group” of the four food groups. (This was back before pyramids were invented, obviously!) ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/32 "2013-07-22T10:38:22Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I didn’t realize that minced meat pie didn’t contain any animal products at all. > > Thanks Tom. > > Ignorance fought. Not sure if you’re taking the piss here, or genuinely don’t know what he’s referring to, but it’s [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mincemeat), a fruit product that historically would have contained meat, but now usually doesn’t (for the definition of “meat” as “muscle of an animal”). ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/33 "2013-07-22T11:32:58Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > To me, it’s like arguing that tomato is a fruit rather than a vegetable. Yeah, technically it’s a fruit. So are peppers. So are cucumbers. But if I bring you a “fruit” basket of tomatoes, peppers, and cukes, you might be understandably perplexed. Also, all fruits are vegetables. A vegetable is any edible plant product, which includes leaves, stalks, fruits, roots, and tubers. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/34 "2013-07-22T11:46:02Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Mammalian meat (pork and beef) has a different nutritional profile than poultry and fish. Besides that, mammals have extremely complex social structures. Humans insert themselves into those structures, often assuming the role of surrogate parents, then come along one day and slit their throats. Nutritionally sound if we keep out the nitrates & nitrites, but still; kind of a nasty way of getting ones protein. OTOH, we sure argue a lot about what’s healthy to eat versus unhealthy, for a species whose ancestors’ idea of a square meal was whatever they could shoo the buzzards away from. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/35 "2013-07-22T12:24:58Z")
> [@Tacit\_Knowledge](#): > > There are people who swear that chicken is poultry, not meat. Um, idiot: poultry IS meat. And you have the Catholics who want to pretend that fish isn’t meat. “I don’t eat meat on Fridays. But I chow the hell out of some fish”, they’ll claim. Again, idiot, fish IS meat. I’m sure there are people who argue that chicken isn’t meat in an asinine way, or that fish isn’t meat in an asinine way, but in the sentence “I don’t eat meat on Fridays” anyone with an ounce of knowledge about Christian culture knows that meat is used in a narrower sense than “muscle fibres of any member of the kingdom animalia”. It’s language. Get over it. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/36 "2013-07-22T12:35:34Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Also, all fruits are vegetables. A vegetable is any edible plant product, which includes leaves, stalks, fruits, roots, and tubers. Would Paul Lynde in a coma have been both a fruit and a vegetable? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/37 "2013-07-22T12:35:40Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > but still; kind of a nasty way of getting ones protein. Only if one is completely divorced from nature. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/38 "2013-07-22T12:37:39Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > So, are cucumbers fruit or vegetables? Both. Actually, _all three_. Fruit, because they are the seed-bearing structure of the plant Vegetables, because cooks, chefs and diners generally consider it to be so Vegetable, because they are plants. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/39 "2013-07-22T12:47:47Z")
The OP does _sort of_ have a point though - people seem to set rules for themselves (or accept rules being imposed upon them), then try hard to break the rules without actually breaking them - saying “yeah, but this doesn’t really count” is something humans just have a weakness for - whether it’s religious observance, a diet plan, or extramarital sex in the Oval Office. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/40 "2013-07-22T14:09:30Z")
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