# It's meat. Get over it. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 21, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144 "2013-07-21T23:40:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/121 "2013-07-28T00:38:38Z")
“Androids don’t eat, Miss Chapel.” ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/122 "2013-07-28T02:36:54Z")
> [@Tacit\_Knowledge](#): > > Wow, that takes it from misleading to just plain stupid. Who the hell is boiling any meats in any milk? And why? Creamed chipped beef, AKA Shit on a Shingle, or Snot and Foreskins. Wow. Someone actually thought of cooking beef in milk. And it’s actually pretty good. Oh, yeah, there’s also ‘cheeseburgers’. Those are pretty good, too. And there’s something else I can’t remember the name of, which required boiling hamburger in milk, and then pouring it over the veggies and biscuits. That was good, too. Lucky for me, I’m not Jewish, or I’d be screwed. Any other culinary-religious questions? ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/123 "2013-07-29T06:35:05Z")
> [@Tacit\_Knowledge](#): > > For the life of me I don’t understand how some people can be so dumb. I refer you to earlier in your own post. > [@Tacit\_Knowledge](#): > > Religion It doesn’t cause stupidity, merely encourages and emphasizes it. ---
**Author:** ![Tacit\_Knowledge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@Tacit\_Knowledge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tacit_Knowledge)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/124 "2013-07-29T09:33:45Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > I’m going to bring this up next time someone claims they don’t eat meat/flesh. > > “Well then, I guess you don’t eat any fruit either!” > > “how do you figure?” > > “Because, inside the peel is the flesh or the meat of the fruit! Ha ha!!!” Yeah, that was asinine. > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I refer you to earlier in your own post. > > Kgb > > It doesn’t cause stupidity, merely encourages and emphasizes it. Can I get an amen?! It also makes blatant contradictions and lack of logical sense seem virtuous. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/125 "2013-07-29T09:58:03Z")
> [@Tacit\_Knowledge](#): > > Thank you. That’s exactly the point. Now if we can only tell the Catholics that in a way they’ll understand (or at least admit to). Try it also with the people who speak the thousands of languages in which there isn’t a single word which translates as “meat” in “the meat of a cow”, “the meat of a trout” and “the meat of a peach”. ---
**Author:** ![Tacit\_Knowledge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@Tacit\_Knowledge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tacit_Knowledge)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/126 "2013-07-29T14:28:47Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Try it also with the people who speak the thousands of languages in which there isn’t a single word which translates as “meat” in “the meat of a cow”, “the meat of a trout” and “the meat of a peach”. And another obviously-asinine non-point. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/127 "2013-07-29T17:22:04Z")
> [@Tacit\_Knowledge](#): > > Yeah, that was asinine. Given the quality of your OP, what did you expect? ---
**Author:** ![Tacit\_Knowledge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@Tacit\_Knowledge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tacit_Knowledge)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/128 "2013-07-29T18:36:22Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Given the quality of your OP, what did you expect? At minimum, I expect to consider the semantics of the language we speak and are currently conversing in and not step laterally into the irrelevance that is other tongues. In the language called ENGLISH the word “meat”, in reference to animal flesh, has a specific meaning. It’s completely irrelevant that some other language may or may not have an all-encompassing word that is synonymous with our word “meat”. Equally irrelevant is that meat is sometimes used metaphorically to refer to vegetation. Or that Topic Reiner once played a character unflatteringly nicknamed “Meathead”. Or that strangers can meet each other at the supermarket. Or that the crux of the situation can be referred to as the “meat of the matter”. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/129 "2013-07-29T21:07:05Z")
> [@Tacit\_Knowledge](#): > > In the language called ENGLISH the word “meat”, in reference to animal flesh, has a specific meaning. See you’re repeating the same error that has already been debunked in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/130 "2013-07-29T21:30:43Z")
> [@Tacit\_Knowledge](#): > > In the language called ENGLISH the word “meat”, in reference to animal flesh, has a specific meaning. It has several meanings, as has been pointed out. Once again, [note the definitions here](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/meat) From American Heritage Dictionary: > [@](#): > > 1. The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry. From the Collins Dictionary: > [@](#): > > 1. (Cookery) the flesh of mammals used as food, as distinguished from that of birds and fish There is a broad sense of “meat” in English that covers all animals and there is also a common narrower sense that excludes fish and often poultry. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/131 "2013-07-29T23:29:55Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Plus isn’t fowl considered “meat” for the purposes of the “don’t mix meat and milk” prohibition? Fowl don’t produce milk, either. It [is.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law#The_term_.22halev_imo.22) ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/132 "2013-07-29T23:32:39Z")
So if I understand correctly, a dish that combines chicken or turkey with a dairy product would not be kosher? ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/133 "2013-07-31T09:45:03Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > “Androids don’t eat, Miss Chapel.” Pity. If they did, Miss Chapel would be a lot happier. **Tacit Knowledge** : If you wish to be Correct, and use the Literal Meanings of words, do note that ‘British’ and ‘English’ are mutually-exclusive categories. ---
**Author:** ![Tacit\_Knowledge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@Tacit\_Knowledge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tacit_Knowledge)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/134 "2013-08-01T05:13:39Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > **Tacit Knowledge** : If you wish to be Correct, and use the Literal Meanings of words, do note that ‘British’ and ‘English’ are mutually-exclusive categories. OK, and your point? I didn’t say anything about British. I said English, as in the LANGUAGE known as ENGLISH. How does that warrant your pointing out that “English” and “British” don’t mean the same thing? No one implied that they do. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/135 "2013-08-01T20:51:49Z")
Also, no, they aren’t mutually exclusive. A large proportion of everyone who is English are, in fact, also British. The two terms are almost (but not quite) a set and subset. If you wish to be Correct, and use the Literal Meanings of words, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/136 "2013-08-02T00:32:49Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Also, no, they aren’t mutually exclusive. A large proportion of everyone who is English are, in fact, also British. Only in the Degraded and Debased English most of you ignorant lot currently speak. In the True And Correct English, ‘British’ refers to the Brythonic peoples, who are Celtic natives to the Isles, and ‘English’ refers to the Angles, who are Germanic tribesmen and immigrants, if not invaders. We know my way is Correct because it is older, it makes distinctions without a difference, it prevents people from using the language to say what they mean in a convenient fashion, and, best of all, it is contrary to how the language is generally used, making me Better than you, as I can beat you over the head with my rule whenever I believe you to be getting Above Yourself, by which I mean above My August Personage. **Tacit Knowledge** knows the feeling well, I warrant. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144/137 "2013-08-02T01:27:42Z")
Grin! I like that reasoning! Discommoding others with language is so much fun! “Throatwarbler Mangrove” comes to mind! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-meat-get-over-it/664144.md?page=6)