# It's "Merry Christmas," not "Happy Holidays."
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [December 2, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812 "2011-12-02T07:47:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/381 "2011-12-07T02:52:41Z")
> [@Kolga](#):
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> We know the difference between Santa and Jesus. Apparently YOU don’t. Nor do you know the difference between a phrase that allows the speaker to include all possible forms of celebration at a time of the year when there are multiple celebrations, and a phrase that singles out only one of those.
not all of you, clearly. and you’ve been babbling about your collective greeting with hardly any argument besides the merit of full inclusion. a weak merit, since each holiday is considered special on its own. :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/382 "2011-12-07T02:53:04Z")
So, no cite. Yet another bullshit story pulled out of your ass.
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> not all of you, clearly. and you’ve been babbling about your collective greeting with hardly any argument besides the merit of full inclusion. a weak merit, since each holiday is considered special on its own. :rolleyes:
Of course each holiday is considered special on its own. Nobody’s arguing that one is more important than the others.
Oh, wait, YOU are.
You’re just a whiny-ass Christian who wants to pretend that the use of the phrase Happy Holidays is some major religious persecution that’s only occurred recently. Can’t find anything real to get worked up about, so you have to invent it.
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### Author:  [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/383 "2011-12-07T02:55:32Z")
i gave it. you just don’t understand it. not all citations allow instant internet access.
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### Author:  [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/384 "2011-12-07T03:01:24Z")
> [@Kolga](#):
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> So, no cite. Yet another bullshit story pulled out of your ass.
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> Of course each holiday is considered special on its own. Nobody’s arguing that one is more important than the others.
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> Oh, wait, YOU are.
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> You’re just a whiny-ass Christian who wants to pretend that the use of the phrase Happy Holidays is some major religious persecution that’s only occurred recently. Can’t find anything real to get worked up about, so you have to invent it.
you stupid semite. when did i mention religion in any of my posts here? you think i’ll waste 6 pages of posts just to keep implying a quiet allegation? i thought my OP was clear enough but unfortunately, there are people who have internet access but zero reading comprehension. worse, they think they’re smart enough to read between the lines.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/385 "2011-12-07T03:03:13Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> i gave it. you just don’t understand it. not all citations allow instant internet access.
A Time Magazine column asking it’s readers to offer Hirohito deference.
If you did not in fact read that column personally in Time on or about the 1940’s, then yes, of course I expect a cite.
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### Author:  [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/386 "2011-12-07T03:03:23Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> you stupid yid.
Interesting choice of invective. I think that says quite enough about who you really are, and what your true motives might be.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/387 "2011-12-07T03:05:17Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> you stupid semite.
Reported. Apparently after the edit, which didn’t exactly improve matters.
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### Author:  [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/388 "2011-12-07T03:05:24Z")
edited, just a misspell. i don’t really know what yid means besides sounding funny.
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### Author:  [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/389 "2011-12-07T03:06:34Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> edited, just a misspell. i don’t really know what yid means besides sounding funny.
You’re a lying sack of shit. See how I can insult you without using hate speech?
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/390 "2011-12-07T03:07:11Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> edited, just a misspell. i don’t really know what yid means besides sounding funny.
Yid is obviously a misspelling of semite.
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### Author:  [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/391 "2011-12-07T03:07:36Z")
It’s abundantly clear that **Mac** is a troll. Rather than responding and giving him his jollies, ignore him.
BTW- At least one mod here has said that they can see what a post looked like before editing.
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### Author:  [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/392 "2011-12-07T03:08:10Z")
but yid sounded funny though i didn’t really know what it meant. is it a short form for “yiddish?” that’s a language, right?
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### Author:  [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/393 "2011-12-07T03:09:25Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> but yid sounded funny though i didn’t really know what it meant. is it a short form for “yiddish?” that’s a language, right?
You’re a lying sack of shit.
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### Author:  [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/394 "2011-12-07T03:10:52Z")
as if i’m the only one you know. you sure you’re not married to one?
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### Author:  [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/395 "2011-12-07T03:11:28Z")
**Kolga** kindly read post 391
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### Author:  [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/396 "2011-12-07T03:11:39Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> edited, just a misspell. i don’t really know what yid means besides sounding funny.
The Internet’s most valuable service may be keeping people like you in front of a computer instead of wandering around where they can get hurt.
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### Author:  [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/397 "2011-12-07T03:12:44Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#):
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> as if i’m the only one you know. you sure you’re not married to one?
Pathetic. Flail, troll, flail.
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### Author:  [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/398 "2011-12-07T03:13:30Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> I’m with you. I don’t get offended by some one who doesn’t know me, or an off the cuff “Merry Christmas”. But that’s not because the phrase is secular. It’s because I assume the person means well.
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> However, if someone who knew me or for whatever reason learned I didn’t celebrate Christmas kept saying it because it’s secular and shouldn’t matter, they’d be in the wrong. It may not be religious, per se, but that doesn’t mean it’s wholly secular either.
Maybe I’m all wet, but I’ve got to imagine that a Hindu and a Jew are going to have different reactions toward Christmas. To Jews, not being Christian is kind of a big deal, what with the whole divine human being stuff, and the 2000 years being a minority religion, and this and that. Christ’s divinity is anathema to Judaism. Whereas to a Hindu it’s nothing special, there are dozens and dozens of divine incarnations in Hinduism. If Christians want to worshp their particular baby god, that’s their business.
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### Author:  [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/399 "2011-12-07T03:14:15Z")
if people here can clearly see my “meanings,” why does that idiotic candle holder keep saying i suck in written communication?
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### Author:  [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-merry-christmas-not-happy-holidays/604812/400 "2011-12-07T03:15:21Z")
> [@Kolga](#):
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> Pathetic. Flail, troll, flail.
it’s ‘fail.’ ‘flail’ is what you guys used against jesus.
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