# It's "needs washed"!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575 "2009-08-25T00:16:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/201 "2009-10-20T18:32:56Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > See you just lost me again. Why is it “wrong” to have a disdain for other dialects. > If I were British and spoke in a near received pronunciation (I know it is a manufactured dialect), why would it be wrong if I disliked Cockney rhyming slang? Nothing wrong with disliking it on an aesthetic level or something. It’s when you begin to make judgments about the people speaking it that you run into issues, and the latter happens far more than the former. “It’s really hard to understand” is one thing. “People who speak like that are ignorant hicks/welfare mommas” is quite another. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/202 "2009-10-20T18:53:26Z")
It’s the word “disdain” that got me. Dislike–fine, sure. You can \*\*dislike \*\*anything. Hell, there are dialects \*\*I \*\*_dislike_. If you pull up the M-W definition of “disdain,” however, you get “a feeling of contempt for someone or something regarded as \*\*unworthy \*\*or **inferior**.” Emphasis added. See why that’s different? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/203 "2009-10-20T19:37:39Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > A self-hater, a hypocrite, or just plain ignorant. (News flash: you speak a dialect!) I speak a dialect which is easily intelligible to most native speakers of the language. The further from universal intelligibility you get, the less intrinsically valuable (though not necessarily correct) your speech is. Anyway, how do you like my [del]skirt[/del] pants? _twirls_ ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/204 "2009-10-20T20:32:54Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Anyway, how do you like my [del]skirt[/del] pants? > > _twirls_ You’re just lovely, dear. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/205 "2009-10-20T23:08:25Z")
Well, it may be more valuable to learn Mandarin than it is to learn Navajo, because if you learn to speak Mandarin you’ll find a lot more people you can communicate with than if you learn Navajo. That doesn’t make Mandarin correct and Navajo incorrect. And if you said you had disdain for Navajo because so few people understood it, then you’d look like a bit of a dick. Which is the correct Scandinavian language to speak, Danish, or Swedish? Is it the Swedes who are wrong for not speaking Danish, or the Danes who are wrong for not speaking Swedish? Of course, the Norwegians are wrong either way, that’s a given. ---
**Author:** ![TorpedoTed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/da6949/32.png) [@TorpedoTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TorpedoTed)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/206 "2009-10-21T00:32:35Z")
Danish is obviously correct. And the Swedes are wrong mainly for their kooky orthography, which they seem to have chosen just to spite the other Scandinavians, and which looks as though they’re trying to imitate Finnish but failing miserably. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/207 "2009-10-21T01:51:39Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > It’s the word “disdain” that got me. Dislike–fine, sure. You can \*\*dislike \*\*anything. Hell, there are dialects \*\*I \*\*_dislike_. If you pull up the M-W definition of “disdain,” however, you get “a feeling of contempt for someone or something regarded as \*\*unworthy \*\*or **inferior**.” Emphasis added. See why that’s different? I find it extremely provincial and close-minded of you to assume that HIS meaning of “disdain” would necessarily correspond to your Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of the term. Language is a fluid, evolving medium that cannot be “defined” in your traditional “books.” The only valid modern lexicon is Wikipedia, which sadly we must—for the time being—access using our prescriptivist racist keyboards with their culturally oppressive keyset. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/208 "2009-10-21T03:06:03Z")
Seriously. What the fuck is the tilde doing way the hell up in that corner, whitey? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/209 "2009-10-21T15:16:43Z")
Oh c’mon, the key for the tilde and grave is **separate but equal**. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/210 "2009-10-21T16:51:27Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > All right, for anyone still confused about my intent here: > > I’m tired of using a perfectly sensible dialect that I’ve used my entire life and being corrected on it. Currently, I live in D.C., but I’m originally from Pittsburgh. “Needs Xed” or “wants Xed” sounds correct to me and “Xing” sounds idiotic. And “to be” is as optional as _that_ in the sentence “I spent the money _that_ I earned.” > > My dialect is recognized. It’s standard where I come from. And as I hoped to argue (as much as one can argue over usage) that it makes sense. So I parodied those people that claim their usage is “right” and mine is “wrong”. So I wrote the equally valid claim that I am right and everyone else is wrong. Instead of putting it in GD where nothing productive could’ve come of it, or putting it in IMHO where I already knew the outcome, I put it in the Pit becaues it pisses me off to no end that I’m surrounded by grammar nazis that think I’m speaking this way out of ignorance. Half of them, if asked to name a part of speech, would guess “the tongue?” So there. > I now return you to your regularly scheduled pointless, baseless assertions about language. Do the news guys use this dialect while on the air? Just curious. Our inquiring minds needs know. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/211 "2009-10-21T17:27:36Z")
Dammit, yinz are acting like a bunch a jagoffs an’at. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/212 "2009-10-21T17:55:33Z")
Guin, you hillbilly, it’s **ain’a**. Ugh, can’t you speak **properly**?! ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/213 "2009-10-21T18:53:22Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Dammit, yinz are acting like a bunch a jagoffs an’at. Yinz? WTF is a yin? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/214 "2009-10-21T19:03:59Z")
Complement to a yang. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575/215 "2009-10-21T19:46:21Z")
Pointy at one end. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-needs-washed/507575.md?page=10)