# It's nice to visit but I could never live here again **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 17, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264 "2011-11-17T20:08:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/1 "2011-11-17T20:08:21Z")
So I am in Tucson for my mom’s 60th birthday–got in yesterday, leave Sunday. I grew up here. I spent the first 25 years of my life here. And I genuinely enjoy visiting. Mostly for the people I visit and the Mexican food. But I could never live here again. There are no trees! No grass! No flowers! Everything is flat (except the mountains, of course–and I do enjoy those) and brown. It’s too hot half of the year and it gets no real winter (real=snow). For these reasons I would never be happy living here again. Did you move away from where you grew up, and could you ever move back? ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/2 "2011-11-17T20:18:02Z")
That’s the way I feel about the east coast, now that I live in southern Arizona. :p:) ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/3 "2011-11-17T20:29:27Z")
I’ve been living in Phoenix for the last 7 years, moved here after living in Tucson for 15. These days, whenever I visit family in Tucson, the place looks like a lush paradise. When I go out east, I get overwhelmed by the greenery. It’s almost too much. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/4 "2011-11-17T20:29:33Z")
I grew up in Rochester, NY. What was the question again? ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/5 "2011-11-17T21:08:43Z")
Yeah, I feel like that about Michigan, where I grew up. hell, I feel like that about India, where I spent the first four years of my life! ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/6 "2011-11-17T21:13:17Z")
I love the Main Line, and am glad I grew up there, but yes, I could never live there. For one thing, I don’t know anyone there anymore, and too many bittersweet memories. (I agree with you about Tucson, by the way–I spent a week there, and the lack of grass and trees, and all the _hippies_, drove me mad) ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/7 "2011-11-17T21:26:11Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Yeah, I feel like that about Michigan, where I grew up. hell, I feel like that about India, where I spent the first four years of my life! Just to prove that every opinion has the opposite, I spent pretty much all the time in my life not living in Michigan wishing that I lived in Michigan. And I lived in some pretty nice places. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/8 "2011-11-17T21:27:52Z")
> [@Athena](#): > > Just to prove that every opinion has the opposite, I spent pretty much all the time in my life not living in Michigan wishing that I lived in Michigan. And I lived in some pretty nice places. Well, I don’t think I would be like EEEW but I’m just not all that anxious for all that flatland and snow. 🙂 i do miss the lakes, though. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/9 "2011-11-17T21:32:05Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Well, I don’t think I would be like EEEW but I’m just not all that anxious for all that flatland and snow. 🙂 i do miss the lakes, though. You weren’t in the UP. It’s not flat. But you got me on the snow thing, but for me, I like the big seasons and the big snow. ---
**Author:** ![Al\_Bundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Al\_Bundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al_Bundy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/10 "2011-11-17T21:36:04Z")
I’d love to be in Arizona for all the reasons you were glad to leave. ---
**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/11 "2011-11-17T21:54:37Z")
Lived in Arizona for my first 20 years, and then moved around to 3 other states spanning 12 years. Then came back to Arizona. I love it here, and the grass is no greener anywhere else, I found. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/12 "2011-11-17T21:59:25Z")
Bleh, who needs snow? ---
**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/13 "2011-11-17T22:01:18Z")
I grew up north of Spokane in Eastern Washington and I loved it. I would go back in a heartbeat, but I love where I live now as well. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/14 "2011-11-17T22:07:40Z")
I grew up in Los Angeles, AKA Hell-A. All things considered, I’d rather be in Tuscon. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/15 "2011-11-17T22:14:11Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Bleh, who needs snow? I do! I get depressed if I go a winter without snow. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/16 "2011-11-17T22:21:10Z")
Right now I live in a very fun liberal county in the central Rocky Mountains. A ski area destination vacation place. Off of my deck just on the other side of my valley are snow covered 14,000 foot mountains. The view is breathtaking. I grew up in conservative flat central Illinois. Um. No. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/17 "2011-11-17T22:26:48Z")
I grew up in Fredonia NY and most places in New York are at least a 6 out of 13 in places where I’d like to live, while Florida maxes out at 7. Rochester NY would be at least a 5. Ithaca would be an 11 out of 13, and could only be higher if it were closer to a big city for seeing bands and/or cultural events. Never been to Tucson, but Albuquerque to me would be a 4.5, but it would lose points due to being in an ugly, hot, desert, not because of it’s “flatness except for the mountains”. I wouldn’t mind so much living in a flat place as long as I am surrounded by mountains. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/18 "2011-11-17T22:28:52Z")
My only reservation about moving back to Upstate NY is in too small of a small town, there is only one set of available friends and if you don’t like them there’s nowhere to turn to locally. Which is why Fredonia would be the smallest-sized community I’d consider moving to – it’s not so small that you can know everyone (and thus be in everyone’s business.) ---
**Author:** ![loshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce73a5/32.png) [@loshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loshan)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/19 "2011-11-17T22:57:47Z")
> [@sitchensis](#): > > I grew up north of Spokane in Eastern Washington and I loved it. I would go back in a heartbeat, but I love where I live now as well. And I grew up in flat/dry West Texas and live there through age 39. I now live north of Spokane in Eastern Washington and love it. You couldn’t pay me to move back to West Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpine/32/17813_2.png) [@Alpine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264/20 "2011-11-17T23:48:14Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Right now I live in a very fun liberal county in the central Rocky Mountains. A ski area destination vacation place. Off of my deck just on the other side of my valley are snow covered 14,000 foot mountains. The view is breathtaking. > > I grew up in conservative flat central Illinois. > > Um. No. Yeah, only substitute southwestern Rockies, coming from northern New Jersey. One up! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-nice-to-visit-but-i-could-never-live-here-again/603264.md?page=2)