# It's No Pit yet of the captain of the Concordia?  Allow me

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089 "2012-01-20T02:33:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/101 "2012-01-22T21:28:03Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> I read somewhere that the only crew member who stayed onboard till the end of the evacuation was the (named, but I don’t remmeber his name)…ship’s accountant!
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> Wouldn’t vouch for the truth of this statement, though.
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> Anyway this captain is a living caricature, the kind of guy Hollywood wouldn’t show in a movie (just before the hero comes onboard to save the day) because it wouldn’t be credible.

It wouldn’t surprise me if it were true though. Most of the accountants I’ve had dealings with a very conscientious people as a rule.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/102 "2012-01-22T21:30:40Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> It wouldn’t surprise me if it were true though. Most of the accountants I’ve had dealings with a very conscientious people as a rule.

That figures.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/103 "2012-01-23T00:38:12Z")

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They understand someone has to be accountable.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/104 "2012-10-15T19:22:14Z")

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Justice grind on at its usual snail’s pace – [Costa Concordia captain Francesco Schettino](http://news.yahoo.com/costa-concordia-ship-hearing-opens-anger-sorrow-153423415--finance.html) appeared for a hearing today. The hearing is to determine whether he will face a “full trial” (I’m guessing that means a criminal trial) for his actions and inaction when his ship ran aground and sank.

I don’t know if he’s rested and ready, but he certainly seems tanned.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/105 "2012-10-15T19:24:28Z")

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He’s also [suing](http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-costa-concordia-captain-sues-to-keep-job-20121012,0,1721918.story)Costa for unfair termination. Apparently he doesn’t think running a ship aground should be cause for dismissal.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/106 "2012-10-15T19:45:56Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> He’s also [suing](http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-costa-concordia-captain-sues-to-keep-job-20121012,0,1721918.story)Costa for unfair termination. Apparently he doesn’t think running a ship aground should be cause for dismissal.

I guess he thinks he shouldn’t have been fired until actually convicted by whatever relevant authority(ies) has/have jurisdiction.

Looks better for any potential jurors to appear that you believe you are innocent. 🙂

I can see a jury trial for the manslaughter type charges, but does the regular criminal courts in Italy have jurisdiction on the shiphandling/navigation stuff?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/107 "2012-10-15T19:50:55Z")

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I dunno, but I would guess there could be charges along the lines of “criminal negligence.” There are also likely to be civilian/professional organizations which deal with issues of licensing, certification, bonding, etc., that may be holding similar hearings.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/108 "2012-10-16T21:18:16Z")

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[A couple of tidbits from the hearing](http://news.yahoo.com/doomed-italian-liner-helpless-within-seconds-court-told-181719803.html):

Apparently the depth finding sonar was switched off at the time the ship hit the rocks. No explanation of why.

Also, the ships systems were shut down and the ship was uncontrolled within a minute of the grounding.

Also Schettino’s lawyers are suggesting the the Indonesian helmsman may not have understood Schettino’s orders because of language differences. I recognize this as the “It was Tibor’s fault” defense.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/109 "2012-10-16T21:21:43Z")

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Any news on when the wreck is finally going to be raised?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/110 "2012-10-16T21:24:59Z")

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If you look at the link, there’s a pic, and there are large cranes set up around it. Last I heard was months ago, and I think the thinking then was it would take a year or more to move. I don’t even think it had been decided whether to recover it whole or break it up and haul away the pieces.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/111 "2012-10-16T21:33:58Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Any news on when the wreck is finally going to be raised?

If you like wiki: [link](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Concordia_disaster#Salvage)

> [@wiki](#):
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> **Timeline**
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> The wreck-removal and clean-up operation has been delineated by Costa’s Cristiano De Musso, Head of Corporate Communications, according to the following plan:
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> 31 July 2012 Site inspections of the ship and its position.  
> 1–31 August 2012 Securing of the wreck to ensure on-going safety and stability.  
> 1 September – 15 November 2012 Installation of caissons on left side of vessel and construction of submarine platforms.  
> 1 December 2012 Rotation of the wreck begins with the installation of boxes on its right side.  
> 15 January 2013 Ship to be up-righted above waterline.  
> 31 January 2013 Ship delivered to an Italian port for processing according to regulations.  
> 30 April 2013 Cleaning and replanting of marine flora expected to be completed.
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> On August 14, 2012 it was reported that the schedule has been delayed. Under the new plan, the wreck will be refloated by the end of spring 2013.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/112 "2012-10-23T02:33:41Z")

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[According to this story](http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2012/1018/Raising-the-Costa-Concordia-the-biggest-sea-salvage-operation-ever-video), the re-floating of the Concordia is the biggest maritime salvage project ever, and will cost at least $400 million.

And despite Captain Schettino’s claim that his quick maneuvering into shallow waters immediately after the crash saved many lives, [the prosecutor claims](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19981932) that the rudder was jammed within moments and Schettino’s orders had no effect at all.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/113 "2026-07-12T13:51:53Z")

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Bumped.

_People_: Where Is Costa Concordia Captain Francesco Schettino Now? Inside His Life After Abandoning the Sinking Ship

> **[Where Is Costa Concordia Captain Francesco Schettino Now? Inside His Life...](https://www.aol.com/articles/where-costa-concordia-captain-francesco-123000000.html)**
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> Netflix’s ‘Shipwrecked: Nightmare at Sea’ takes a closer look at the sea emergency

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/114 "2026-07-12T14:10:36Z")

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In prison?

Seriously: I’m asking whether or not he’s still in prison. The AI slop you posted doesn’t say.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Seriously?

The last section of the article is headed, “Where Is Francesco Schettino Now?”

The next line reads: “Since May 2017, Schettino has been serving his 16-year sentence at Rebibbia Prison in Rome.”

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I don’t understand the mentality of someone who would throw away a sweet gig like captain of a luxury liner for something so fucking stupid.

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Seriously: I’m asking whether or not he’s still in prison.

From his Wiki bio, he’s still in, though as of last year he is apparently eligible for a partial “day release” program that is dependent on finding an approved sponsoring employer, which he did not.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/118 "2026-07-12T17:49:47Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> approved sponsoring employer

I hope they have pulled his master’s license…

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/119 "2026-07-12T18:07:33Z")

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Not everyone here is going to read every article or watch every video linked to. It helps if those posting such things include some further info.

Edited to add, I for one, didn’t follow the link.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-no-pit-yet-of-the-captain-of-the-concordia-allow-me/610089/120 "2026-07-15T23:37:46Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> as of last year he is apparently eligible for a partial “day release” program that is dependent on finding an approved sponsoring employer, which he did not.

He should have tried to get a job with one of the companies that specializes in raising shipwrecks off the bottom of the ocean.

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