# "It's not a remake; it's a new movie based on the same source"

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**Created:** [March 21, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-a-remake-its-a-new-movie-based-on-the-same-source/961402 "2022-03-21T01:25:04Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-a-remake-its-a-new-movie-based-on-the-same-source/961402/41 "2022-03-21T19:39:27Z")

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Poisonville!

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-a-remake-its-a-new-movie-based-on-the-same-source/961402/42 "2022-03-21T19:43:32Z")

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> [@Levolor\_the\_Blind](#):
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> I suspect the origin of all of these is Dashiell Hammett’s “Red Harvest”.

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> While [Akira Kurosawa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Kurosawa) stated that a major source for the plot for _[Yojimbo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yojimbo)_ was the 1942 classic _[The Glass Key](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Glass_Key_(1942_film))_ , an adaptation of [Hammett’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashiell_Hammett)’s 1931 novel _[The Glass Key](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Glass_Key)_ , it has been noted by some critics that the overall plot of _Yojimbo_ is closer to that of Hammett’s _Red Harvest_ .[[8]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Harvest#cite_note-8)

> **[Red Harvest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Harvest)**
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> Red Harvest (1929) is a novel by American writer Dashiell Hammett. The story is narrated by the Continental Op, a frequent character in Hammett's fiction, much of which is drawn from his own experiences as an operative of the Pinkerton Detective Agency (fictionalized as the Continental Detective Agency). The plot follows the Op's investigation of several murders amid a labor dispute in a corrupt Montana mining town. Some of the novel was inspired by the Anaconda Road massacre, a 1920 labor dis Ti...

I haven’t read Red Harvest, and I haven’t seen Yojimbo in eons, but I suspect Yojimbo is roughly inspired by Red Harvest (I think Kurasawa misremembered), and not a direct adaptation of it.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I haven’t read Red Harvest, and I haven’t seen Yojimbo in eons, but I suspect Yojimbo is roughly inspired by Red Harvest (I think Kurasawa misremembered), and not a direct adaptation of it.

I’ve read _Red Harvest_. **Yojimbo** is very much like _Red Harvest_ and not at all like _The Glass Key_. In fact, if I recall correctly, **Last Man Standing** credits _Red Harvest_ and is beat for beat the same as the novel(la).

Hammett created many of the tough guy stereotypes we see across countless movies.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-a-remake-its-a-new-movie-based-on-the-same-source/961402/44 "2022-03-21T19:48:08Z")

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The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (2013) has slightly more in common with the 1947 film than it does with the original short story.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-a-remake-its-a-new-movie-based-on-the-same-source/961402/45 "2022-03-21T19:48:08Z")

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How about Howard Hawks’ Rio Bravo/El Dorado/Rio Lobo? El Dorado was a loose adaptation of a novel by Harry Brown, and Rio Lobo is just a rehash of El Dorado, both scripts having been written by Leigh Brackett. I have no idea how to classify this triptych.

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