# It's not just YOUR thread, Eve!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 11, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710 "2003-07-11T14:02:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![godzillatemple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@godzillatemple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/godzillatemple)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/1 "2003-07-11T14:02:39Z")

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**[Pit newbie here. I’d ask you to be gentle with me, but I guess this _is_ the Pit after all…]**

In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=196438&perpage=50), **Incubus** talked about having terrible luck with relationships and opined that he has decided that it wouldn’t be all that bad to be alone for the rest of his life.

Many other people, including **Eve** , chimed in to say that they, too, had determined that, in all likelihood, they would remain single for the rest of their lives. A few people, including myself, also posted to tell how for many years they _had_ been utterly convinced that they would always be single, until they finally met the “right” person.

Now, if the OP had stepped in to say “hey – I appreciate the success stories, but this thread is really about people who want to celebrate being single,” I wouldn’t have a problem. As it turns out, though, the OP had this to say:

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> **I think its rather alarming that some people know that they are going to be single for the rest of their life. I mean, barring a past traumatic event/baggage, you never know what the future holds. I don’t think I will find someone, but I’m not ready to claim that its impossible for it to happen.**

The OP, you see, is willing to entertain the notion that he might someday find somebody, although he doesn’t think it is very likely. Which is, of course, why some people like to talk about how we were in the same situation and how things changed for us.

**Eve** , however, apparently decided that this was her personal thread, and that it was all about her, when she took it upon herself to post the following diatribe:

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> Alright, will you “never give up hope, He/She will come along when you least expect it” people Shut. The. Hell. Up!
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> I’m sure you don’t mean to come off as pompous and condescending, but guess what? You are. It’s no different than coming into a thread full of people talking about why they are atheists and saying, “Oh, that’s just because you haven’t yet Found the Truth that is Jesus.”
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> Yes, it’s possible that one or two people on this thread will someday get into a relationship and/or get married. But a lot of us never will, and we know it. Jesus, I couldn’t even get married if I wanted to, it’s not even legal in most states! If I found a man who didn’t run for the hills when he found out about me, which also ain’t ever going to happen.
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> So please keep your well-meant gurglings to yourself, OK?

Well, excuuuuuuse me, miss bitch queen! I can only assume from your post (“I couldn’t even get married if I wanted to, it’s not even legal in most states! If I found a man who didn’t run for the hills when he found out about me, which also ain’t ever going to happen”) that you are a pre- or post-op transexual. Nothing wrong with that, except that you are therefore not exactly representative of the other people posting to the thread in question. The thread is not about people who can’t legally marry, but about those who have had trouble with relationships and have come to accept the fact that they will in all likelihood never get married.

As for your analogy that, “It’s no different than coming into a thread full of people talking about why they are atheists,” bollocks! The original poster stated that, “I don’t think I will find someone, but I’m not ready to claim that its impossible for it to happen.” A better anology would be a thread full of people talking about how they’ve lost faith in god, a few people talking about how they regained their faith once having lost it, and then a loud-mouthed athiest barging in to decide what the thread is _really_ about and tell anybody who believes in god to Shut. The. Hell. Up.

You obviously have major issues, **Eve**. Feel free to start your own thread entitled “Who couldn’t get married even if they wanted to?” But don’t come into somebody _else’s_ thread and take it upon yourself to decide what the thread is “really” about and then tell _other_ people they shouldn’t post to it.

Barry

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/2 "2003-07-11T14:20:05Z")

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Bitch _Empress_, if you don’t mind.

I will simply refer you to my own [Pit Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=196732), to avoid having to state the obvious, _twice_.

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**Author:** ![godzillatemple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@godzillatemple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/godzillatemple)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/3 "2003-07-11T14:26:14Z")

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Sorry, I missed your thread (probably because you didn’t bother linking to it in the original thread).

Nice to know I was correct about your being transgendered, though, as I hate making false assumptions.

I suppose I’ll have to go ahead and wade through all the vitriol you have undoubtedly spewed in your thread, but the fact remains that you came into somebody else’s thread, decided for yourself what it was about, made assumptions that everybody else must be _just like you_, and then became rude as hell to anybody who dared have a dissenting view. And **that** is what this particular Pit thread is about. Yes, **Eve** – this thread really _is_ all about you, so enjoy!

Barry

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**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/4 "2003-07-11T14:33:53Z")

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**godzillatemple** has a good point, though.

You have resigned yourself to eternal loneliness, but lashing out with bitterness at others isn’t going to make your point very convincing.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/5 "2003-07-11T14:42:06Z")

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It seems to me, **Godzilla** , you are the one spewing vitriol, not I. You seem to have some issues to work through yourself.

And **Gorgon** , you obviously did not read my thread very thoroughly if you think I have “resigned myself to eternal loneliness.” I guess the parts about how I’m happy being single, have lots of friends and a very rewarding career just flitted past you.

I promise never ever to go back into the original thread, as my contributions there seem to be unpopular and unwelcome. I’ll confine myself to my own thread, and leave you folks to Convert the Sad Heathens to the Joys of Wedlock.

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**Author:** ![godzillatemple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@godzillatemple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/godzillatemple)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/6 "2003-07-11T14:50:30Z")

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Personally, I’m not trying to covert anyone to anything. If people are happy being single, more power to them, and I’m certainly not about to tell anyone that they need to be married, or that they should be married. If people like being single (or childless, or gay, or whatever), that’s perfectly fine with me, and I wish them all the best.

The original poster in that thread, however, stated that he still held out hope that maybe, someday he would be married, which indicated that he wasn’t completely happy being single. And to people who are single and _not_ happy about it (even though they may have resigned themselves to it), those of us who were in the same boat for many years will continue to state that you never know what will happen and there is always hope.

Once again, **Eve** , you had no right whatsoever to co-opt that thread and declare that people with opposing views were banned from posting to it. It wasn’t your thread, and your views do not even represent those of the original poster in that thread.

And yes, as a matter of fact I **do** have issues with rude, self-important people who think everything is about them, thank you very much. If I want to tell them to Shut. The. Hell. Up!, however, I come to the Pit to do so instead of comandeering somebody else’s thread.

Barry

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**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/7 "2003-07-11T15:30:08Z")

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Actually, when I tried to read it the net went cablooy and said the page couldn’t be found.

And my snide and perhaps innapropriate comments notwithstanding, I still agree with the OP.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/8 "2003-07-11T15:37:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by godzillatemple \*  
> **Once again, Eve, you had no right whatsoever to co-opt that thread and declare that people with opposing views were banned from posting to it. It wasn’t your thread, and your views do not even represent those of the original poster in that thread.**

Fine, you have a valid point there, and I _do_ apologize to that OP, and will graciously withdraw from that thread. As for the rest of your personal comments, I do not feel like being dragged down into the kind of mud-slinging so beloved in these threads, and will not nibble at your bait.

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**Author:** ![godzillatemple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@godzillatemple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/godzillatemple)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/9 "2003-07-11T15:46:43Z")

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Apology accepted (by proxy, since I’m obviously not the OP). Of course, it would also be nice if you apologized to those of us you called “pompous and condescending,” but I won’t hold my breath.

As for the personal comments, mud-slinging and baiting, I thought that was _expected_ (if not actually required) for a Pit thread. Just trying to play by the house rules, doncha know. Really – I’m usually very courteous and mild-mannered, I promise. I’m even told that I grow on people after awhile, like a fine mold…

Barry

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/10 "2003-07-11T15:48:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gorgon Heap \*  
> … You have resigned yourself to eternal loneliness, but lashing out with bitterness at others isn’t going to make your point very convincing.

But … but … eternal lonliness and bitterly lashing out at people _go so well_ together.

Besides, if we’re to have a snarky _Bitch Emperess_ around here, who better than Dorothy Parker’s understudy? All the other halfwit contenders at these boards can’t even hold a lorgnette (or was that a riding crop?) to our Queen of the Boards[sup]®[/sup] (as it were).

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/11 "2003-07-11T16:01:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by godzillatemple \*  
> **Apology accepted (by proxy, since I’m obviously not the OP). Of course, it would also be nice if you apologized to those of us you called “pompous and condescending,” but I won’t hold my breath.**

Well, several people (I am not singling you out) _were_ being pompous and condescending, so how exactly to apologize for calling them on it? “I’m sorry I was offended by your condescending pomposity?” Hmmm, doesn’t quite cut it.

Just so no one will be dissappointed by a polite, well-mannered Pit Thread: “_Goat felcher! Asshat! Wears navy with beige!!!_”

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**Author:** ![Gazelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Gazelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gazelle)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/12 "2003-07-11T16:08:54Z")

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Navy and beige don’t go together? Seriously? Wow, I’m screwed.

**Eve** , your photo on your website is beautiful.

Can I ask some dumb, personal questions which I hope do not offend? Okaygood.

Are there places where the transgendered can go to meet people who are interested? If so, does that idea turn you off? Also, have you had a relationship since blooming?

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/13 "2003-07-11T16:17:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> "_Goat felcher!_

Eh. The goat’s on sabbatical, so we’ve been using a family fo capybara.

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> _Asshat_!

Been done. It’s no lorgnette.

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> _Wears navy with beige!!!_"

I’m glad I don’t have to take this kind of insult, since I wasn’t part of the original thread. But **Eve** , … some things are just below the belt.

[sub]Double-Entendre is a city somewhere, damnit.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/14 "2003-07-11T16:21:10Z")

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> … some things are just below the belt.

Ummm… yeah, like the best things in life!

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/15 "2003-07-11T16:22:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gazelle \*  
> Navy and beige don’t go together? Seriously? Wow, I’m screwed.

Holy crap. I’m not exactly a candidate for a Vogue cover, but I thought at least navy and beige worked together…

And yes, **Eve** is lovely and refined-looking, to the point where I’m near-bitterly jealous and hope to aspire to looking like that **now** , much less in a decade or two.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/16 "2003-07-11T16:44:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gazelle \*  
> \*\*Navy and beige don’t go together? Seriously? Wow, I’m screwed.
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> **Eve** , your photo on your website is beautiful.
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> Can I ask some dumb, personal questions which I hope do not offend? Okaygood.
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> Are there places where the transgendered can go to meet people who are interested? If so, does that idea turn you off? Also, have you had a relationship since blooming? \*\*

• No. Navy and beige do not go together, though it’s a far sight better than, say, navy and _black_.

• If there are “guys who like transsexuals” club, they would just strike me as . . . I dunno, kinda _creepy_, like men who are only turned on by women in glasses, or Asian women.

• “Blooming?” Huh? You mean since I became middle-aged, or since I started wearing bloomers?

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/17 "2003-07-11T16:46:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ferret Herder \*  
> Holy crap. I’m not exactly a candidate for a Vogue cover, but I thought at least navy and beige worked together…

Blue blazer and _gray_ slacks. As it was and so shall it ever be (Bill Blass be damned).

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/18 "2003-07-11T16:46:27Z")

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Oh, yeah, and thanks for all the compliments on the photo: but I assure you, 50% of that is lighting and airbrushing. I’m not a _hag_, but I _am_ a plain (by that I mean “average”) looking middle-aged dowager. Which I am fine with.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/19 "2003-07-11T16:49:44Z")

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Bless me lord for I’ve sinned. It’s been [sub]mumble, mumble[/sub] days since my last confession.

I’ve worn navy with beige. Many times. I swear I didn’t know it was a sin.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-not-just-your-thread-eve/187710/20 "2003-07-11T16:55:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> \*\*• No. Navy and beige do not go together, though it’s a far sight better than, say, navy and _black_.
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I’ve worn those colors together. I’m so embarrassed. I really did think navy and black were okay - I’m not joking.

Oops. Learned my lesson.

Ava

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