# It's official. It's Jeb Bush. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 27, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261 "2012-11-27T14:15:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/21 "2012-11-27T15:46:52Z")
I agree that Bush seems to have the inside track, given the lack of competition. First of all, it is NOT going to be Christie. [His defense of a Muslim judge](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y83z552NJaw) is quite admirable. However, it is fatal to his ever becoming nominated for president. If that didn’t disqualify him, then surely his gentlemanly behavior of working with Obama after Sandy does. Cavorting with Muslims AND Obama is not forgiveable with the GOP base. Huntsman is not going to be nominated either. If he had stuck around a bit in 2012, maybe. But he didn’t last long enough to have his turn in the parade of un-Romneys. You don’t get your turn by running a non-serious campaign the first time out of the gate. Jeb Bush is certainly more qualified than his brother ever was, if that’s any help to him. He seems to be dipping his toes in the water just a bit now, so my guess is game on for him. I just have a hard time seeing anyone beating him in the primaries. ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/22 "2012-11-27T15:49:12Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I wonder what ex-presidents Lieberman and Giuliani have to say about this. When was Lieberman presumed to have a lock on the nomination, if that’s what your referring to? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/23 "2012-11-27T15:56:15Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > When was Lieberman presumed to have a lock on the nomination, if that’s what your referring to? At this point in the 2004 election cycle. He was, after all, the vice presidential nominee on a Democratic ticket that won the popular vote. I skipped the even more obvious Hillary Clinton joke. Being seen as a leading contender at this stage in this process means you have name recognition and exactly nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/24 "2012-11-27T16:15:58Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > It’s official. It’s Jeb Bush. As in, he is officially the subject of this thread? ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/25 "2012-11-27T16:26:05Z")
Ok maybe official should be in quotes. But I’m hard pressed to see any rising stars overtake him. I mean how early was Mitt called. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/26 "2012-11-27T16:29:51Z")
_sigh_ OK, everybody, dust off all your old “LICK BUSH” and “FUCK BUSH” signs . . . ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/27 "2012-11-27T16:31:22Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > And 8 years is enough to forget about W., amirite?! No. Nixon poisoned the name Nixon. Carter poisoned the name Carter. Neither of those is an electable name _now_. Bush won’t be an electable name on the national level for 30 years. ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/28 "2012-11-27T16:38:36Z")
That part was facetious. ---
**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/29 "2012-11-27T16:44:29Z")
I don’t know, I don’t think it’s going to be that cut and dry. It is Santorum’s “turn”, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/30 "2012-11-27T16:46:36Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > Ok maybe official should be in quotes. “Maybe?” Sorry, it’s too soon to be that confident. If you’re right it’s more likely to be a coincidence than a good prediction. > [@](#): > > But I’m hard pressed to see any rising stars overtake him. Isn’t that kind of the whole idea behind “rising star?” There were not a whole lot of people in November/December 2004 saying the Democrats were going to nominate Barack Obama next time out (he hadn’t even been sworn in as a senator yet). And have you heard of this Rubio guy? He’s already making visits to Iowa. Unlike Jeb, he has a job (Bush left office at the beginning of 2007) and he’s actually a Latino instead of a white guy who gets partial credit for speaking Spanish and marrying a Latina. I continue to be confused why Jeb’s name is always one of the first ones people think of. I understand the reasons he seems like a guy who should be under consideration, but those reasons seem pretty superficial to me. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/31 "2012-11-27T16:47:46Z")
Jeb Bush is actually a pretty decent politician. Probably the best governor Florida has had since Lawton Chiles. Still, that’s not saying much, but it’s something. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/32 "2012-11-27T16:57:25Z")
If the republicans and centrists want to have a viable alternative to the Democrats, (and since they’re too often conservative or centrist as well, I’m not a huge fan) my suggestion would be rebuilding the party as a center right party instead of a far right party, one that is willing to do simple things like approve Obama appointments and not invent controversies that do not exist, maybe occasionally vote for legislation in a bipartisan manner. I am not saying they have to roll over and be the Democrat’s butt monkeys, I am just saying when they argue with Democrats or oppose Democratic ideas, have something sane to argue. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/33 "2012-11-27T17:00:39Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > It could happen…Nixon’s grandson is a Lawyer and is running for office as a Republican: > [Christopher Nixon Cox - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Nixon_Cox) But that would be **Bush/Cox** And _nobody_ would want _that_. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/34 "2012-11-27T17:03:37Z")
I think they’re the perfect fit for each other, actually. Better than Dick Cheney and Colon Powell, for sure… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/35 "2012-11-27T17:12:21Z")
[The House of Bush](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bush,_House_of_Saud) is one great family America does **not** need as a political dynasty. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/36 "2012-11-27T17:12:40Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I found the first president Bush to be not only far less objectionable than his son, but a whole hell of a lot smarter and more competent, particularly with regards to handling warfare and needing to raise taxes even if it violated a campaign pledge. OTOH, it turned out he couldn’t raise a worthwhile kid to save his life. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/37 "2012-11-27T17:13:09Z")
Bush or Christie? So it’s between the two guys who keep Burger King from going under? Clinton was bad enough with the doughboy look, but I’d really prefer my president not to be a walking heart attack. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/38 "2012-11-27T17:13:52Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Jeb Bush is actually a pretty decent politician. Probably the best governor Florida has had since Lawton Chiles. Still, that’s not saying much, but it’s something. Still can’t forgive him for the 2000 election and the pre-election voter-roll purge. But for that, the whole al-Qaeda threat would have been handled by Gore, and better. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/39 "2012-11-27T17:21:31Z")
> [@babygoat666](#): > > I don’t know, I don’t think it’s going to be that cut and dry. It is Santorum’s “turn”, after all. Oh man, from your fingers to God’s monitor… ---
**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/40 "2012-11-27T17:24:29Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Oh man, from your fingers to God’s monitor… Do what now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261.md?page=3)