# It's official. It's Jeb Bush.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 27, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261 "2012-11-27T14:15:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/41 "2012-11-27T17:26:46Z")

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I want God to arrange for Santorum to be the GOP nominee in 2016, is what that means.

But since you didn’t say it with your mouth, it’s not appropriate to say “From your mouth to God’s ears.”

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/42 "2012-11-27T17:28:53Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Bush or Christie? So it’s between the two guys who keep Burger King from going under? Clinton was bad enough with the doughboy look, but I’d really prefer my president not to be a walking heart attack.

Whelp, there goes the plans to elect Zombie Taft.

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [The House of Bush](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bush,_House_of_Saud) is one great family America does **not** need as a political dynasty.

But what about [The House of Mouse](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney's_House_of_Mouse)? They’re still okay, right?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/43 "2012-11-27T17:33:13Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Bush or Christie? So it’s between the two guys who keep Burger King from going under? Clinton was bad enough with the doughboy look, but I’d really prefer my president not to be a walking heart attack.

Hopefully, they’ve kept the Taft bathtub in storage for just such an eventuality.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/44 "2012-11-27T17:36:19Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> But what about [The House of Mouse](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney's_House_of_Mouse)? They’re still okay, right?

I can see Mickey as POTUS and Goofy as Veep and Donald as Defense Secretary – but, of course it doesn’t matter, Uncle Scrooge will really call the shots and pull the strings, just like he does now.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/45 "2012-11-27T17:39:32Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I want God to arrange for Santorum to be the GOP nominee in 2016, is what that means.

And so does Santorum, so that’s two prayers . . . maybe we should start a prayer chain . . .

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/46 "2012-11-27T17:42:58Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Clinton was bad enough with the doughboy look, but I’d really prefer my president not to be a walking heart attack.

Aside: never really understood where the idea of Clinton as fat came from. While he obviously didn’t spend as much time in the gym as Bush II or Obama, [Bill Clinton](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hillary_Clinton_Bill_Chelsea_on_parade.jpg) was, if anything, relatively skinny.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/47 "2012-11-27T17:56:07Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> I really wish the GOP would just admit they want the US ruled by a monarchy again.

But they’ve already got the [campaign posters](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f8/Playbillgeorge.jpeg/220px-Playbillgeorge.jpeg) ready 😃

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/48 "2012-11-27T17:56:35Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Aside: never really understood where the idea of Clinton as fat came from. While he obviously didn’t spend as much time in the gym as Bush II or Obama, [Bill Clinton](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hillary_Clinton_Bill_Chelsea_on_parade.jpg) was, if anything, relatively skinny.

He doesn’t look skinny, he looks like he’s wearing a well tailored suit, and that’s the point of wearing those. [He doesn’t look so good here.](http://www.frumforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/_Thumbcrop_267x364/bill-clinton-jogging.jpg) [And you may wish you could unsee this one.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/bill-clinton-al-gore-shorts-90s_n_1033691.html) Where did the idea come from? I’m not sure, but I thought he admitted on the campaign trail that he ate a lot of junk food and needed to lose some weight.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/49 "2012-11-27T18:03:46Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> He doesn’t look skinny, he looks like he’s wearing a well tailored suit, and that’s the point of wearing those. [He doesn’t look so good here.](http://www.frumforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/_Thumbcrop_267x364/bill-clinton-jogging.jpg) [And you may wish you could unsee this one.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/bill-clinton-al-gore-shorts-90s_n_1033691.html) Where did the idea come from? I’m not sure, but I thought he admitted on the campaign trail that he ate a lot of junk food and needed to lose some weight.

Fair enough, skinny might be a bit of a stretch. But still, even in jogging get-up, he’s not noticeably fat.

Just seems weird. Most things people make fun of politicians, while they might be unfair, have at least enough basis in truth that you can see where they’re coming from.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/50 "2012-11-27T18:06:33Z")

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He’s not obese or anything, no. I’m not sure anyone ever said he was. Perhaps the SNL sketches with Phil Hartman made people think of him as a guy who liked to pig out.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/51 "2012-11-27T18:09:26Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> I found the first president Bush to be not only far less objectionable than his son, but a whole hell of a lot smarter and more competent, particularly with regards to handling warfare **and needing to raise taxes even if it violated a campaign pledge**.

Or cause a recession.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/52 "2012-11-27T18:31:36Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Or cause a recession.:rolleyes:

They raised taxes because the recession was driving up the deficit. The economy didn’t go into a recession because taxes went up.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/53 "2012-11-27T18:48:31Z")

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I know it’s not up there with foreign or economic policy, but I found his rolling over to the knuckledragging fundies in the [Terri Schiavo](http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/oct2003/flor-o31.shtml) matter more than a little troubling. Speaking only for myself — obviously — I’d need confirmation that he has sufficient stones to tell the KDFs to take a flying fleech before I’d consider him qualified for the job.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/54 "2012-11-27T18:55:14Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> I know it’s not up there with foreign or economic policy, but I found his rolling over to the knuckledragging fundies in the [Terri Schiavo](http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/oct2003/flor-o31.shtml) matter more than a little troubling. Speaking only for myself — obviously — I’d need confirmation that he has sufficient stones to tell the KDFs to take a flying fleech before I’d consider him qualified for the job.

Stones? He didn’t follow their orders; he’s one of them. And the Schiavo affair is also the first thing I think of when people start discussing Jeb.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/55 "2012-11-27T20:18:35Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The economy didn’t go into a recession because taxes went up.

Yes it did. And it made it worse.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/56 "2012-11-27T20:20:17Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> I can see Mickey as POTUS and Goofy as Veep and Donald as Defense Secretary – but, of course it doesn’t matter, Uncle Scrooge will really call the shots and pull the strings, just like he does now.

\<Insert joke about Aladdin and the Middle East here\>

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/57 "2012-11-27T20:21:45Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Yes it did. And it made it worse.

I honestly can’t tell if that’s a joke or not?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/58 "2012-11-27T20:23:35Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Yes it did. And it made it worse.

You realize the economy went into recession before the tax increases happened, right? Is that the reason for the bizarre phrasing in this post- which suggests the increases somehow caused the recession and made it worse at the same time?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/59 "2012-11-27T20:38:44Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I honestly can’t tell if that’s a joke or not?

It’s not. Obama’s victory seems to have galvanized **pkbites** ’ CCF (Conservative Curmudgeon Factor).

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-its-jeb-bush/642261/60 "2012-11-27T20:59:45Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> [And you may wish you could unsee this one.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/bill-clinton-al-gore-shorts-90s_n_1033691.html)

Dons don’t wear shorts, Bill.

He’s got a chubby face, so even when he’s not on the heavy side, he doesn’t look skinny. [Michael Kors](http://news.instyle.com/2012/11/12/michael-kors-1-million-sandy-relief/) has a similar problem. (In so far as it’s a “problem”, of course.)

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