Nor,ally I would say- who cares? It is only maybe a 1000 votes, in just one state. But in this case, those 1000 votes are in the one state that will decide the election. Jeeez. So much for the Bush “landslide” 
Let me clarify something a bit.
I’m not being flippant about nullifying the FL votes. And yes, I know that that cannot be legally done.
I worry greatly about the cloud of suspicion that will hang over Gore or Bush when they are elected. I worry how disruptive this will be to our country and the legislative process. IMO, this could be more disruptive than Iran-Contra and the Clinton impeachment combined. So I made my statement based on a desire to avoid this sort of political strife. That’s all.
And note - I would even take a more honest or less suspicious Gore win over a less honest or more suspicious Bush win, should that be the case.
Sorry, front page. That’s what I meant by cnn.com.
The CNN story on the found ballot box was just updated at 3:43 EST. The story now says there were no votes in the box. The link: http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/08/ballotbox.found/
Hey, I said I was guaranteeing it, and I stick by that. If you are unsatisfied with the veracity of the next election, I will refund you the expense of your vote.
If that were true, then most historians would be either idiots, or, at least, seriously challenged in arithmetic.
Kennedy got 303 electoral votes
Nixon got 219 electoral votes
Harry Byrd got 15 electoral votes.
Illinois simply did not have enough votes (then or ever) to overcome Nixon’s 84 vote deficit.
Illinois may have been stolen by the Democrats (although there was a lot of fraud in the Republican precints away from Chicago, as well), but Illinois could have been won by Nixon and JFK would have still taken the presidency.
Hmmm…I believe Kennedy did somehow buy votes, didn’t he?
Again I put on my Old Fart hat and say sagely,
We’d get over it. Or, everybody except the most vocal opponents of Mr Gore would, and as we’ve seen in some of the threads today those people aren’t even happy or nice when they WIN!
It’s possible, although most of the fraud I have seen claimed for the 1960 election is generally attributed to old-line Democratic bosses doing a favor for the party rather than Kennedy actually initiating a buy.
Cecil has noted that the Illinois fraud (which features prominently, if stupidly, in several Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories) was pretty blatant–but that it was matched by a lot of stolen or bought votes by the Republicans out in the Illinois hinterlands.
Regardless, the old story that Kennedy was given the election because Daley’s theft was better than the Republican theft in Illinois, shatters on the noteworthy point that JFK won without needing Illinois.
It was never proven, despite lengthy investigations by the Republican party that were eventually shut down by federal judges who said that there was no evidence.
haahhaahaha bwahaha
Funniest election humor I’ve seen all day.
Alphagene, I dub thee, king of Gore/Robot humor.
No, it’s not the least bit official that the election is fraudulent. In fact, as mentioned in the last few posts, the voting-box-in-the-church has been debunked.
If the past 24 hours or so have taught us anything, it’s not to believe what the major media are saying until it is absolutely, unequivocably proven true.
I knew all of that, Milo. You are quite correct. I’m hardly the first person guilty of using a provacative thread title in the Pit though…
Bear in mind that if the Florida vote were somehow nullified, neither Bush nor Gore would obtain a majority of electoral votes, and the next president would be chosen by the House of Representatives. Only people happy then would be the news channels.
Zarathustra
Of course, there is precedence for electoral votes from a state not being counted if the elector dies before the vote, or is unable to attend for any other reason. So if we just kill off the FL electors from both parties…poof
Problem solved 
Well, I guess that would be a bad idea, but whatever…
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. D’oh!
No, no, no. If there are no Florida electors, then Al Gore is elected President.
From the Constitution, Amendment XII: “The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed…”
If no electors from Florida are appointed, then there are only 513 electors. Gore would have a majority of that, presuming his 260 electoral votes stand up (whether or not they would is a different question.)
What is equally clear, though, is that there isn’t any provision for Florida to NOT appoint electors. According to Amendment XII, every state has to come up with them. I do NOT believe that disallowing Florida from the electoral college is constitutionally possible. One way or another, 25 electors from Florida must vote.