# It's official: There Are No Weapons Of Mass Destruction, & Georgie is a Fucktard. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403 "2005-01-12T16:09:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/1 "2005-01-12T16:09:06Z")
The search for Weapons Of Mass Destruction in Iraq is officially over. [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6814588/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6814588/) We didn’t find any. More than 100,000 Iraqi civilians, & more than 1200 of our own troops died for nothing. We have, officially, comitted a dreadful crime, and in my heart I believe that Heaven shall punish our nation for this crime. May God damn you to hell, George W. Bush, for this terrible thing you have done. You, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, all of you. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/2 "2005-01-12T16:10:50Z")
It’s about damn time. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/3 "2005-01-12T16:14:42Z")
Freedom! 9-11! Saddam! There, I trust THAT answers all your objections! (See, I can play right-wing pundit too!) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/4 "2005-01-12T16:17:40Z")
It’s been a fair while since the administration claimed there were ever WMDs there. They downgraded it to “WMD _capabilities_” a while ago. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/5 "2005-01-12T16:21:47Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Freedom! 9-11! Saddam! You forgot Poland. Don’t forget Poland! ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/6 "2005-01-12T16:21:47Z")
> [@Johnny Bravo](#): > > It’s been a fair while since the administration claimed there were ever WMDs there. They downgraded it to “WMD _capabilities_” a while ago. Aha political [Llap-Goch](http://munkton.tripod.com/llapgoch/) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/7 "2005-01-12T16:21:56Z")
I’m sure they’re still hidden in the sand somewhere. :rolleyes: I hope all the suckers that ate this bullshit up with a spoon feel like the losers they are. Thanks for stupid war! Next time listen to us! ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/8 "2005-01-12T16:23:18Z")
How long before the Pubbie apologists show up? Robin ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/9 "2005-01-12T16:23:46Z")
Not even “capabilities” anymore - “weapons of mass destruction _program-related activities_” is still the operative statement. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/10 "2005-01-12T16:26:32Z")
This is impossible. Mr. Bush and his advisors _knew_ that Iraq was hip-deep in was nucular anthrax. They said so many times. They can’t be giving up after only 18 months or so. This must be disinformation on MSNBC’s part. Damn libruhl media anyway. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/11 "2005-01-12T16:27:06Z")
Since there weren’t any, it really makes you wonder just what Saddam was thinking by playing a shell game with the U.N inspectors. He was hardly forthcoming and certainly gave the appearance of trying to stay a step ahead of the inspections. It would have been so easy for him to have removed any pretext for a U.S. invasion. He was so incredibly cunning and capable in some regards, but so stupid in others. ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/12 "2005-01-12T16:31:13Z")
In anticipation of replies supporting the invasion for purposes of humanitarian regime change, note that the administration _shied away from_ such justifications when they were actually making the case for war since they set a rather dangerous (and even ‘liberal’) precedent. If that was their _real_ reason for war, they should have said so and **ignored WMD entirely**. Heck, I might even have _agreed_. Heck, so might have the UN Security Council. What neither I nor the UNSC definitely did _not_ agree with was this hopelessly botched Iraqi Public Relations disaster which killed, and still kills, more civilians than Saddam’s admittedly brutal but _stable_ regime could have if he remained in power for _decades_… ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/13 "2005-01-12T16:36:46Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Since there weren’t any, it really makes you wonder just what Saddam was thinking by playing a shell game with the U.N inspectors. He was hardly forthcoming and certainly gave the appearance of trying to stay a step ahead of the inspections. It would have been so easy for him to have removed any pretext for a U.S. invasion. > > He was so incredibly cunning and capable in some regards, but so stupid in others. If you didn’t already know, SH was a selfish asshole, who did his best to exaggerate his capabilities. Don’t give me a load of shit about how he could have avoided the whole thing by 'fessing up, because IIRC he was saying he didn’t have shit the whole time. Looks like he was telling the truth there. The onus is on the invading country to make sure it has the facts straight before blowing thousands of innocent civs to shit. We (not including everyone who said this was a waste before the invasion)) dropped the ball big fucking time. ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/14 "2005-01-12T16:37:06Z")
> [@](#): > > **lieu** : [Saddam] was hardly forthcoming and certainly gave the appearance of trying to stay a step ahead of the inspections. It would have been so easy for him to have removed any pretext for a U.S. invasion. > [@](#): > > **Hans Blix** :\*The American Government lost patience when the Government of Iraq began to collaborate actively with us as we asked…When on January 27, I denounced Iraq in the Security Council of the UN for not cooperating in an immediate, complete and unconditional way to fulfill the terms of resolution 1441, the American Government, including the hawks, applauded me. However, it was a great paradox, because from then on, the Government of Iraq began to cooperate actively. And then the Americans began to criticize me. \* > or… > > \*Access to sites has been prompt and assistance on the sites expeditious. It seems probable that a general instruction has been issued not in any way to delay or impede inspection of the kind of sites we have gone to so far. \* From [here](http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/unmovic/2003/0409lostpatience.htm) and [here](http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/unmovic/2002/1219blix.htm) (thanks **JM** ) respectively. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/15 "2005-01-12T16:41:40Z")
BTW I’ll add that _all_ countries exaggerate their military abilities. For example, our “limited but functional” missle shield, which we know is a load of crap. Compare the following quotes. (After the invasion) “Well SH shouldn’t have lied about that stuff, he should have just fessed up” (After US getting nuked) “Well they shouldn’t have made it like they have some shield that could have stopped all that crap” Somehow, I don’t think people would go for the latter one. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/16 "2005-01-12T16:51:57Z")
I wonder if Cheney is going to stick by [his statement he made only last October](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041007-18.html): > [@](#): > > And the other thing that’s interesting, of course, was in those days, Saddam Hussein had, everybody agrees now, a robust program for WMD; a nuclear program that had been seriously underestimated by our intelligence services, as well as the chemical and a biological weapons program. The whole administration is a den of lying vipers. ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/17 "2005-01-12T16:52:30Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > He was hardly forthcoming and certainly gave the appearance of trying to stay a step ahead of the inspections. It would have been so easy for him to have removed any pretext for a U.S. invasion. But he did do something like this - he allowed the inspectors back into the country, a month or so before the invasion. They found nothing, of course. On preview, I see **Sentient Meat** has already pointed this out. However, it’s interesting how this factoid has almost disappeared from the conventional story of the war… ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/18 "2005-01-12T16:54:11Z")
Does this mean that we can rehang the “Mission Accomplished” banner? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/19 "2005-01-12T16:54:40Z")
I conceivably would have too, **SentientMeat** , especially since a logical contingent of such a justification would have been a rapid and appropriate focus on initially maintaining and then improving the existing infrastructure with regards to utilities, food, medicine and security and a non-violent transition to stable self government. Had any change been made for humanitarian reasons, an appropriate focus might have been placed on the elements that currently missing have made the situation so disasterous for the people. As to Blix’s comments, might we not consider instead someone not assessing their own culpability in a failed mission? Accurate or not, an impartial judgement might carry more weight. ---
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403/20 "2005-01-12T16:56:34Z")
I think I read somewhere that Cuba recently found oil. I could be wrong of course, but I wonder how long it’ll be before we realize that Castro has WMD and we must go to war with them. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-official-there-are-no-weapons-of-mass-destruction-georgie-is-a-fucktard/284403.md?page=2)