Yeah, fuckin’ hilarious. Nothing like a big ol’ pile of dead folks to bring on the chuckles.
How?
The answer is yes. I went to Gulf War I and my eldest is leaving soon for Iraq.
I am sure I am not the only one.
Would you be willing to kill your own baby its crib? Would you be willing to shoot your own wife in the head? Would you be willing to bomb your parents’ house with them inside it?
That’s what we’re doing to the Iraqis.
Want to provide credible credit to these alleged incidents?
What are you kidding me? You don’t believe we’ve killed any civilians?
Please. Give me more credit than that. I am asking for sources where any collation troop shot a baby in the crib, shot someones wife in the head and out and bombed someones parents without it being a misdrop or someone planted in a house where insurgents were using the resident as a hideaway.
I was speaking figuratively. We’ve been slaughtering civilians wholesale for over two years (over 100,000 by some counts).
And let’s not forget all the torture and kiddy rape either.
I’m asking if you think it would be a worthwhile trade to see your own wife and children get blown apart in order to get Saddam Hussein out of power because that is indeed a choice that GWB made for thousands of other families in Iraq without bothering to find out how they felt about it first.
While I generally agree with you on many topics, including this one, you might want to rephrase this. Apologies if you DO believe that before a sovereign country invades or takes military action against another sovereign country, its citizenry must be polled first, and that determines the action’s rightness or wrongess.
When the action is non-defensive and is done ostensibly on behalf of those civilians, then you’re damn right their consent should be required.
Ah, but one of the criticisms of the Bush Administration that you (rightly, IMO) level are their arguments that the action was defensive.
Considering that Saddam killed millions and even more Iraqis, that it is hard to find any family that did not have a father, son, mother, daughter or any other member of the family who disappeared, murdered, tortured or imprisoned during his 30 years in power my answer would be yes.
The big truth in Iraq was the torture chambers, the poverty of the people, the loss of hope while the people wish and desire to live free of the horrors they have seen when Saddam was in power. Out of every 1000 births in Iraq, 135 of them died from diseases that can be prevented. 70% of these deaths were from diarrhea and respiratory infections. Children born in South and Central Iraq have chronic malnutrition. This from a nation that was richer than Malaysia or Portugal before Saddam took power. 60% of the people depended on that Food for Oil program. Rural areas have no access to clean water.
Saddam sat in palaces while his people suffered.
I am the wife of this situation and my child that is going to Iraq is a woman. So for 12 years I watched in anger as this man toyed with the inspectors, lied to the UN, where I was one who wanted to put him out of power back in the first Gulf War.
I understand those who are anti-war and discuss the moral issues and the kind thought of asking the Iraqi’s before we came to remove Saddam. But how would you ask them if this is what they wanted. The couldn’t give us a vote because Saddam would kill them or one of their family members if they spoke out against him. So in my eyes it was a moral decision to remove the ones who murdered, tortured and terrified the Iraqi people.
I am glad that no more money is being wasted looking for wmd’s. But where some of these weapons Saddam claimed to have will turn up, time will tell and I won’t be surprised when they do.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/09/content_288443.htm
http://www.casi.org.uk/info/garfield/dr-garfield.html#Figure4
Man, you didn’t just drink the kool aid, you fucking chugged it and asked for seconds.
If you say so.
But I don’t like kool-aid. :wally
By the way, the torture chambers didn’t stop, we just picked up where Saddam left off.
Have you been reading Glossy News again?
No, just Time and Newsweek. Fabulous hoods we’re using these days.
Hey dillhole, the sanctions and inspections worked. There were no WMD’s. The war was no more about cramming freedom down the throats of potentially grateful Iraqi’s than it was about jamming chemlights up their asses. If you want to throw your life away railing against every petty evil in the world, that’s your business. it is not the president’s business to engage in a campaign of deception designed to sucker the whole country into a war of conquest that does a disservice our strategic interests.
I have something to tell you, Vindi, and you ain’t gonna like it. Your government lies to you. Regularly. With a straight face, they shovel bullshit onto your plate like the high school lunch lady spooned Tuna Surprise. They lie.
Millions of Iraqis? Millions, Vindi? There’s only about 20 million of them to begin with! If what you say is true, then they would have greeted us with boquets of roses! But they didn’t! Doesn’t that suggest anything to you?
They lie, Vindi! They’ve been doing it for years! The lied about Viet Nam, they lied about Nicaragua, they lied about El Salvador…
Thats a turd in the punchbowl, Vindi. No matter how much they swear to you that its a corn-studded chocolate log, it just ain’t so. They lie.
I don’t think there are means to impeach the entirety of the Congress.