# It's okay to gang rape your sister?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 2, 2002, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056 "2002-07-02T17:14:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/1 "2002-07-02T17:14:01Z")

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Okay, I heard this on the news today and I have been unable to track down the source…has anyone else heard of this?

In Pakistan, a boy was caught walking with a girl of a higher caste, apparently a no-no over there. As his punishment, Pakistani officials have ordered that the boy’s 18-yeard old sister be gang-raped.

I’m hoping this is a snopes thing…am I the only one to have heard about this?

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**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/2 "2002-07-02T17:20:45Z")

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[Link to an Associated Press story on it.](http://www.nandotimes.com/world/story/453497p-3631636c.html)  
Incomprehensively barbaric.

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/3 "2002-07-02T17:26:33Z")

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Not much to add here, except that I saw the story and was stunned. Even if the boy’s action is verboten in that particular culture, how about actually punishing the perpetrator rather than an innocent bystander…

I’m not necessarily saying that they should punish the kid. But that’s another argument for another time.

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/4 "2002-07-02T17:34:18Z")

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Beyond belief. I’m ashamed to be considered the same species as anyone who would think up and/or perpetrate such a punishment. People like this need culled from the genetic an social herd, regardless of cultural mores.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/5 "2002-07-02T17:34:34Z")

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Oh God I thought it was a joke. I take some SMALL solace that this was tribal and not the ruling gov’t of Pakistan. Will the girl be charged with adultery now?

Can’t we as humans agree that there are certain things, regardless of social culture, that are evil? Murder, gang-raping a young girl, etc? I’m horrified!

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Maximino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@Mighty\_Maximino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Maximino)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/6 "2002-07-02T17:38:03Z")

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Bizzare. I bet Mohommed would have a few choice words for those villagers.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/7 "2002-07-02T17:40:52Z")

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By the way, the knowledge and resources that can be found in this message board are phenonemal. Barely five minutes after I posted, an answer to what I thought was an obscure story was found. I am in awe. You guys are unbelievable!

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**Author:** ![Tiburon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@Tiburon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tiburon)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/8 "2002-07-02T17:52:24Z")

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Whoa. That is…horrifying.

I wonder how common that is. That’s seriously fooked up.

I have to say, though, that when I read the OP, and it said “Pakastani officials” - I thought it meant a rough equivalent of cops, not the Pakastani (Mastoi) Tribal council. It was a little misleading for me. When I read the article, I thought, “So it wasn’t the country’s representatives who ordered this…it was a tribal council…”

Tibs.

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**Author:** ![Lisa\_Ann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lisa\_Ann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lisa_Ann)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/9 "2002-07-02T19:22:01Z")

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Unbelievable. I thank I God I live in the States.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/10 "2002-07-02T19:35:08Z")

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Yeah.  
Gang rape practically never happens here.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/11 "2002-07-02T19:36:57Z")

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Oh. My. God.

No no no no non no no!!!

MOMMY!!!

:mad:

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/12 "2002-07-02T19:56:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Tiburon \*  
> \*\*Whoa. That is…horrifying.
> 
> I wonder how common that is. That’s seriously fooked up.
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> I have to say, though, that when I read the OP, and it said “Pakastani officials” - I thought it meant a rough equivalent of cops, not the Pakastani (Mastoi) Tribal council. It was a little misleading for me. When I read the article, I thought, “So it wasn’t the country’s representatives who ordered this…it was a tribal council…”
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> Tibs. \*\*

You’re right, of course. I was only posting what I had heard on the radio, so I did get some of the info wrong. I’m glad to see that “Pakistani officials” are investigating.

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**Author:** ![Zoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6de8d8/32.png) [@Zoff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoff)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/13 "2002-07-02T20:02:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Gang rape practically never happens here.

Not as part of a quasi-judicial sentence. Surely you understood her point, didn’t you?

The very purpose of the thread is to express outrage over a gang rape that was orchestrated by a group who has the power to dispense “justice”.

I’m not being jingoistic, I’m just pointing out the massive difference in her point and your rebuttal.

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**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/14 "2002-07-02T20:07:21Z")

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If this is the local custom, wouldn’t it have been heavily publicized by now? Is it possible that this is some sort of propaganda, akin to the Jewish Purim/blood pastries thing?

I guess I just don’t want to believe this is true.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/15 "2002-07-02T20:32:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
> \*\*Yeah.  
> Gang rape practically never happens here. \*\*

No, but it is highly unlikely that a judge is going to sentence me to being gang raped when my brother commits a crime.

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**Author:** ![welby1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@welby1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/welby1)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/16 "2002-07-02T20:35:53Z")

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I’m retiring from the Earth. It’s just too fucked up for my taste.

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**Author:** ![airdisc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@airdisc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/airdisc)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/17 "2002-07-02T20:39:28Z")

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I hope they don’t say anything about this on TV, as those waves are going out into space. I can just see what the Intergalactic Council would think of this. They’d probably aim their photon cannon at Karachi and Islamabad.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/18 "2002-07-02T20:42:46Z")

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and yet we all get so outraged when the fine military machine paid for by our taxes bombs these same people into (farther into) the stoneage! make up your minds!! are they innocent bystanders or are they savages???

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Jesus was in a coma.

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/19 "2002-07-02T20:49:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gatopescado \*  
> \*\*and yet we all get so outraged when the fine military machine paid for by our taxes bombs these same people into (farther into) the stoneage! make up your minds!! are they innocent bystanders or are they savages???  
> \*\*

Yeah! Because of course there’s no middle ground between angel and demon.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-okay-to-gang-rape-your-sister/117056/20 "2002-07-02T20:55:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> And yet we all get so outraged when the fine military machine paid for by our taxes bombs these same people into (farther into) the stoneage! make up your minds!! are they innocent bystanders or are they savages???

I don’t get too outraged; I supported the invasion of Afghanistan, with the attendant air strikes. But since you asked:

11 year old boy and 18 year old sister: Innocents.

Gang-raping men, council who directs it, and men standing outside cheering: Savages.

Now show me the bomb that differentiates between the two – not that we were ever bombing Pakistan, anyway.

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