# It's our lifestyle! (Man walks woman on leash in mall)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 27, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979 "2015-05-27T19:59:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/21 "2015-05-27T22:20:20Z")

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> [@Disposable Hero](#):
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> I realise we may be cutting with a very fine knife here

Wait, they’re into that _too?_

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/22 "2015-05-27T22:34:59Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> A lot less preparation than it takes to to get into a lot of the clothes men and women wear to impress each other in public.

Oh come on, I gave up wearing a codpiece years ago…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/23 "2015-05-27T22:40:43Z")

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> [@mascaroni](#):
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> Oh come on, I gave up wearing a codpiece years ago…

I wear the whole cod.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/24 "2015-05-27T22:43:05Z")

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> [@Disposable Hero](#):
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> So why do it in a mall then? If you’re doing something out of the social mainstream in a very public place then that suggests strongly to me that your doing it precisely because you want the attention, and its disingenuous to act surprised when you then get that attention.

Couldn’t society have said the same of a gay couple walking hand in hand 70 years ago?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/25 "2015-05-27T22:45:19Z")

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She’s more of a dog than a puppy. He’s no prize either. It sickens me when ugly people publicly display sexuality.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/26 "2015-05-27T22:46:04Z")

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And even if they are trying to get attention… So what?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/27 "2015-05-27T23:06:55Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And even if they are trying to get attention… So what?

Right.

They are perfectly entitled to do that in public. We are perfectly entitled to have opinions about them. As long as everyone is civil to one another, then it should be a big shrug fest.

I guess people may worry about what children might think. But I fail to see why “some grownups enjoy playing make-believe out in public” wouldn’t suffice as an explanation.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/28 "2015-05-27T23:16:48Z")

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> [@Disposable Hero](#):
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> So why do it in a mall then? If you’re doing something out of the social mainstream in a very public place then that suggests strongly to me that your doing it precisely because you want the attention, and its disenguous to act surprised when you then get that attention.
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> “I’m just going to pop down to the mall honey, do you have the leash and collar?”
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> This obviously isn’t something you just do casually, it takes a little preperation.

But they live the lifestyle. For them, it IS a casual thing. They do it around the house, and they do it elsewhere too.

I’m fine with it. They’re not hurting anyone.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/29 "2015-05-27T23:45:59Z")

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It’s a little disgusting from a hygiene perspective if she’s crawling around on all fours but she’s not serving me food.

Sadly, in this day & age, my first thought would be to look around for the (hidden) cameras. Not my thing, but whatever. It’s two consenting adults, which makes it better than parents who put a leash on their 3yo! :mad:

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/30 "2015-05-28T01:23:25Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> > [@Disposable Hero](#):
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> > So why do it in a mall then? If you’re doing something out of the social mainstream in a very public place then that suggests strongly to me that your doing it precisely because you want the attention, and its disenguous to act surprised when you then get that attention.
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> Couldn’t society have said the same of a gay couple walking hand in hand 70 years ago?

A sizeable fraction of US society thinks that _today_. And in some areas of the country that attitude is all-but universal. Tolerance for public display of gay affection is very much limited to big cities in advanced states. _Today._

Yes, you’re not going to get quite the online outrage these folks provoked. But that’s largely due to the borderless nature of the net and the relative over-representation of more modern folks.

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**Author:** ![Cub\_Mistress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@Cub\_Mistress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cub_Mistress)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/31 "2015-05-28T02:41:01Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> When we see something like this, society should make certain that the “puppy” is in this of her own free will. But having once assured that… \<shrug\>. It’s a weird world out there.

yeah, so… how many people do they have to convince that this is what she (or he) wants to do, of her (or his) own free will? Does each and every one of us have an obligation to verify the acceptability of questionable behavior? Some subs get off on shocking the vanillas, but is that really fair to the vanillas? They didn’t consent to be involved (however tangentially) in the sub’s desires for public humiliation. It is the reaction of the vanillas that the sub craves, in these cases.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/32 "2015-05-28T04:54:34Z")

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Well, better do yet ANOTHER update to the sex ed materials for kids that just finally added gay and transgender information and add in BDSM. We have to or some person will call us stupid and prejudice for not accepting this. Kids need to know that 2 people who love and care for may show it by one walking the other around on a dog leash and going home and whipping each other. It’s what is now “normal”. Better show pictures of the Folsom Street Fair in San Fransisco just to make sure.

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/33 "2015-05-28T05:54:43Z")

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I think it’s incredibly disgusting and profoundly inappropriate. If you’re into fake bestiality or whatever this is, fine, but keep your weird sexual kinks in the bedroom. If you get off on other people being uncomfortable with your weird sexual kinks, tough crap. It’s extremely disturbing for someone to get off on being treated as sub-human property, and I think that these two both need to get out of that relationship and into some serious heavy-duty counseling.

That said, I don’t see any way in which it’s _illegal_. They’re free to be weird, antisocial deviants. The mall is free to kick them out as “weird, antisocial deviant” isn’t a protected class. They are then free to whine about it. I’m free to label them as weird antisocial deviants.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/34 "2015-05-28T06:00:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> They claim that this arrangement does not extend to their sex life

That’s right, they _never_ do it doggy-style. 😛

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**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/35 "2015-05-28T07:42:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> They claim that this arrangement does not extend to their sex life and they’re not looking for attention

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/36 "2015-05-28T08:10:11Z")

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Does he work on training his “puppy” at home? Maybe he’s still teaching her to heel. She’ll quickly learn to walk by his side even off-leash. At home, does she pretend to not be housebroken yet? Is he working on housebreaking her? I wonder what training technique he uses. (I didn’t see the video. Does he use a choke collar? :eek: )

I love doggies. Whenever I see a dog in public (most often at parks, for example) I pet them. I’ve done this all my life, and haven’t gotten badly bitten yet. An occasional nip maybe. Dogs are so cute and cuddly and fuzzy, and most of them are friendly. Can I pet her too?

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/37 "2015-05-28T08:32:13Z")

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I’d bet money that the attention-seeking behavior (plus the oddly tame, semi-respectable, [though utterly unbelievable] claim that this doesn’t extend to their sex life) is because they are looking to get a reality show based on their lives.

With dogged determination, I’m sure they can succeed.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/38 "2015-05-28T08:33:14Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Dogs are so cute and cuddly and fuzzy, and most of them are friendly. Can I pet her too?

Wouldn’t a better question be, “Can I sniff her butt?”

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/39 "2015-05-28T08:58:43Z")

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They are allowed to do whatever they want.

And I’m allowed to think they are attention seeking weirdos.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-our-lifestyle-man-walks-woman-on-leash-in-mall/720979/40 "2015-05-28T09:06:22Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> It’s a little disgusting from a hygiene perspective if she’s crawling around on all fours but she’s not serving me food.

So if she was serving you food it would be OK? 😉

Punctuation is so important.

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