# It's Pat! ....etc.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 6, 1999, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801 "1999-12-06T23:20:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/1 "1999-12-06T23:20:00Z")

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Some of my favorite names are androgynous:  
_Kelly  
Lynn  
Pat  
Terry  
Tracy_

Also, there’s  
_Billy  
Dale  
Jackie  
Jesse  
Lee  
Kim_

I’ve known 2 male _Shirleys_  
and 2 _Peanuts_, one of each sex.  
Knew one _Cricket_, female.

Other interesting _real_ names?

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**Author:** ![cher3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cher3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cher3)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/2 "1999-12-06T23:28:00Z")

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Until recently there was a female Kevin who worked where I do. I also have a female cousin named George. (Her actual name is George Ann, and everyone calls her Georgie.)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/3 "1999-12-06T23:42:00Z")

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Oh, and let’s not forget _Glenn Close_!

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**Author:** ![GOD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GOD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GOD)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/4 "1999-12-06T23:44:00Z")

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And _Drew, Jerry, and Lane._

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**Author:** ![Boris\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@Boris\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boris_B)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/5 "1999-12-06T23:56:00Z")

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Well now, I don’t know any female Jerrys. But Geri is pronounced the same way so I guess it more or less counts.

Actually, I can’t think of many male names which would surprise me on a female. Henry could be short for Henrietta, Bobbi for Roberta, etc. In fact I think the last letter is the key to gender: Billie is a girl, Billy is a boy, etc.

There are also plenty of “girlish” names I see applied to males, but these have a much bigger surprise factor. A man named Beverly or Ginger raises my eyebrows in a way that a woman named Bobbie Lee or Georg(i)e does not. I suspect this means that, deep down, I am part of a sexist patriarchal order.

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Any similarity in the above text to an English word or phrase is purely coincidental.

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**Author:** ![neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neuro-trash_grrrl)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/6 "1999-12-06T23:58:00Z")

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I sometimes am called “Chris”.

I know a girl named, and I am not making this up, Michaelann.

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“That’s entertainment!” —Vlad the Impaler

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**Author:** ![jane\_says](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@jane\_says](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jane_says)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/7 "1999-12-07T00:30:00Z")

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I am certainly not making this up either - I know a girl named plain old Michael.

I actually wanted to name our first daughter Kevyn after a friend from high school. Hubby didn’t like it much though, he wanted to go with Gilley Peekaboo.

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**Author:** ![putrid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@putrid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/putrid)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/8 "1999-12-07T00:39:00Z")

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Dana. Yes, not just Carvey. I knew a guy (jerk) and a gal (hot.)

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**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/9 "1999-12-07T00:47:00Z")

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I’ve known one male and one female of each of the following:

Dana  
Rene  
Joy

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/10 "1999-12-07T00:49:00Z")

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A boy named Joy? Oy!

Hey, the male Dana I knew was a jerk, too!

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/11 "1999-12-07T01:17:00Z")

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A few more that can be male or female:

Leslie  
Terry  
Gail

There’s Darryl Hannah, but I doubt that’s used too often for a woman.

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“East is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.” – Marx

Read “Sundials” in the new issue of Aboriginal Science Fiction. [www.sff.net/people/rothman](http://www.sff.net/people/rothman)

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/12 "1999-12-07T01:33:00Z")

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The Brits like to use Evelyn and Leslie for men, which is mostly feminine names in the States.

And there is a famous woman named ‘Michael’: Michael Learned who was the actor[sup]1[/sup] who played the mom on _Walton’s Mountain_. Although, it’s more likely for girls to be named Micaela now, thanks to _Medicine Woman_.

Peace.

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[sup]1[/sup]‘Actress’ is no longer used in the biz[sup]2[/sup].

[sup]2[/sup]If you have to ask ‘which business,’ you need your cultural IQ checked, there ain’t no business like it.

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**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/13 "1999-12-07T06:23:00Z")

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I have female friends named Brandon, Noah, and Sean.

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Born O.K. the first time…

If you are born again, do you have two belly buttons?

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**Author:** ![neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neuro-trash_grrrl)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/14 "1999-12-07T06:30:00Z")

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Hey, has anyone mentioned Shannon? I used to know a guy by that name.

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“That’s entertainment!” —Vlad the Impaler

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**Author:** ![Demo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demo/32/8472_2.png) [@Demo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demo)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/15 "1999-12-07T06:38:00Z")

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Oh, bummer, I thought this thread was about pricciar. 😉

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/16 "1999-12-07T07:14:00Z")

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One of my housemates is a thirteen year old girl named Kyle.

Sometimes this confuses me.

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~Kyla

“You couldn’t fool your mother on the foolingest day of your life if you had an electrified fooling machine.”

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/17 "1999-12-07T07:17:00Z")

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My great-aunt was named George. George Crook Thomas.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/18 "1999-12-07T08:20:00Z")

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We named our Daughter Smith Irene Hanson.

My wife chose the name “Smith”, after a female author (and friend) of hers. At first I thought it was strange, but now I love it, and we get compliments on it all the time.

Of course, she’s going to have to go through life saying, “No, that’s my FIRST name.”

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/19 "1999-12-07T11:57:00Z")

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Don’t forget Robin, which is a boy’s name in the UK but a girl’s name over here.

Robin Leach & Robin Tunney

Drew Carey & Drew Barrymore

Jamie Lee Curtis & . . . are there any famous male Jamies?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-pat-etc/11801/20 "1999-12-07T12:20:00Z")

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Jamie Farr.

Robin Wiliams isn’t from the UK as far as I know.

Someone asked about men named Shannon. I’ve known 2.

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I crave an art that passionately transcends the mundane instead of being a device for self-deception.–Griffin, from The Griffin and Sabine trilogy.

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