# It's that great getting up morning: The new site is nearly ready for you. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 10, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380 "2020-06-10T18:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/281 "2020-06-13T21:15:58Z")
How many of us here have actually signed up on that Demo site, or otherwise have experience with Discourse? Anyone who hasn’t, I really recommend you should do so and play around there for a while. (Oops, am I breaking the rule about “advocacy” here?) It will be helpful to have at least a little familiarity with the workings there before we go live there. I’ve done that yesterday and the day before. In that time, I’ve encountered two other Dopers there, and had some extensive conversation with one of them there. I probably won’t go there again until the Big Day, because I feel I’ve learned at least enough to hit the ground running when we get there. Be aware that the Demo site consists of a few Categories (Forums), and few topics (threads), and a few posts from several years ago, plus whatever new stuff people post there, but that new stuff gets erased every day. It seems they just made a static back-up of their Demo site some years ago, and every day they just do a full restore to the way it was then. To play with the demo over several days, you’ll need to sign up afresh each day (which is fairly quick and easy, but you’ll need to check your e-mail and click on a confirmation link). The existing threads there include one Category full of threads with information about how to use their site. For those not already familiar, it will be valuable to read at least that. There is also one thread with a beautiful (but perhaps not terribly realistic) photo of a lake surrounded by mountains, which I’ve stolen and set as my desktop background! ETA: When you sign up, you will be greeted by a bot that, at your option, will walk you through a tutorial of some of the basic operations on their board. It goes fairly quickly. If you’re new to Discourse, I recommend it. You’ll even earn a few silly “badges” by the time you finish it! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/282 "2020-06-13T21:25:18Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > ETA: When you sign up, you will be greeted by a bot that, at your option, will walk you through a tutorial of some of the basic operations on their board. You can start it at will by typing _@Discobot start basic tutorial_ into the PM or as a reply to any post. To run the advanced tutorial, type _@Discobot start advanced tutorial_ (May still be _basic user_ and _advanced user_ on some boards.) And don’t get me fucking started on **Discobot** … ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/283 "2020-06-13T21:39:15Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > To play with the demo over several days, you’ll need to sign up afresh each day I think I’ll just wait till the board opens over there and only have to sign up once. I’ll be heading into my first farmers’ market of the year and won’t have much time to deal with things anyway; if I can get in and make that first post, I’ll try studying the place some over the weekend and/or when it gets around to raining again. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/284 "2020-06-13T22:10:13Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Which, to get us familiar with their terminology, they call the “hamburger menu”. > > Is that a common term in modern netology? It’s the first I’ve ever seen it. The actual icon (three horizontal lines) is quite common, but this is the first I’ve seen it called “hamburger”. Yes, I’ve heard that terminology on other sites. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/285 "2020-06-13T23:02:58Z")
Yay! I hope it all goes smoothly. I’m sure a lot of people will run into issues due to not remembering (or having access to) their old email, but there’s not a great way to prevent that. (And I only just found this note, even though I thought I’d checked for updates a couple days ago. I guarantee lots of regular readers will miss it.)] > [@Yookeroo](#): > > I’ve been on many many boards that allow pictures and not once have I run across goatse. Are Dopers total assholes compared to the rest of the internet? This. I have seen occasional issues with inappropriate images, but that’s what moderators are for. > [@Senegoid](#): > > Here’s a detail that seems annoying, and possibly could be disruptive to our SDMB culture in ways not immediately apparent: > > A great many web sites, including the current Board, have a navigation menu at the top of every page. At the top of this thread page, for example, we see: > > Discourse thread pages, at least on that demo site, have no such thing. Furthermore, I couldn’t see anywhere on the page where it says what Forum the thread is in. > > But you can arrive at a thread page in many ways, with links from other pages, or even from other off-board sites, or those “Suggested topics” at the bottom of the thread, or the list of recent posts on the home page. > > _This means you can get to a thread page and not know what Forum you’re in!_ > > I found that to be a little disorienting, even on that dinky demo site. > > You can’t even easily tell if you’re reading a public thread or a private conversation. When I signed up, I was engaged in a conversation with their new-user bot, which walked me through a beginner’s tutorial. I couldn’t find where that thread was in any of the forums, and it took me a while to realize that it was a private conversation. > > But here’s the problem for our Board culture: Every forum has its own posting rules, and its own moderation style and strictness. How often have you needed to double-check what forum you are in before posting that opinion, or political jab, or flame? > > I think we may see people making inappropriate posts because they forget, or don’t know, what forum they’re in and can’t easily find out. The moderators may need to calibrate their moderation styles to accommodate this. > > OR: Can the admins configure the site to include a navigation menu, or some equivalent, on each page? Yeah, I played around with Discourse when someone was thinking of porting a different board I post on, and I found it extremely disorienting. I never knew where I was, of how to find stuff. I suppose we will all learn how to use it. > [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > Some issues we’re going to run into. > > First is the new user posting restriction. Except for mods and admin, every new user–regardless of Trust Level–is restricted for 24 hours (and 3 seconds!) from making too many posts. This includes PMs. That’s 24 hours from your first post, not from account creation. There doesn’t seem to be any way to turn that off or for admin to clear it for any individual user or group… I’m pretty sure the admin can adjust that setting. That WASN’T a problem that I noticed. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/286 "2020-06-13T23:04:02Z")
I’ve heard references to “the hamburger menu” in lots of places. I think it’s pretty common, maybe even becoming the standard term. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/287 "2020-06-13T23:09:20Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > You can start it at will by typing _@Discobot start basic tutorial_ into the PM or as a reply to any post. > > To run the advanced tutorial, type _@Discobot start advanced tutorial_ > > (May still be _basic user_ and _advanced user_ on some boards.) > And don’t get me fucking started on **Discobot** … Is it like Paper Clip Man but in a white suit and doing The Hustle? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/288 "2020-06-13T23:11:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Is it like Paper Clip Man but in a white suit and doing The Hustle? More like an adderall addicted Beetlejuice who shows up when you say his name only _once_. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/289 "2020-06-14T00:27:59Z")
Notwithstanding all the minor grousing that I and a few others are doing in this and the other thread, I’m really all looking forward to getting this change done. This board is being REALLY recalcitrant today. Possibly about the worst I’ve ever seen it. I think it, like Trump, is going very visibly downhill very fast! (cf: the Clusterfuck thread where they’re talking about his speech at West Point.) I fear this board may not survive another week. I hope the admins here are making full back-ups EVERY DAY, if not every hour, because this board is going to totally crash any fucking minute now, and if you don’t have a really up-to-date back-up, the whole board is going to be lost forever. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/290 "2020-06-14T00:33:05Z")
You know, I don’t know if I’m going to be able to handle clicking on “post” and just having a post go through with no fuss, muss, or bother. :dubious: Where’s the excitement, the suspense, the pre-emptive copying of the post so it won’t get lost, the click, the suspenseful wait… _round and round she goes and where she stops nobody knows!_ … and then YES! JACKPOT! The post went through! Or… But no, it’s taking too long… will it be a 504 or a 502?? I open a couple of other windows because I can’t take the tension… Oh, damn, it’s a 504!! Crap. But I go to UserCP in a new window and check my recent posts and it’s there! HA! \*You little debbil! \* Every post is a thrill-a-minute spin of the wheel. If shit starts working like it 'pposed to, then hell, it’s like putting your money in the slot machine, pulling the handle, and (yawn) getting a shower of coins every single dad-blamed time. Where’s the sport in that, I \*aks \*you?? Yeah, where’s the sport. Posting here will just become a routine, predictable task. Like being at work or something. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/291 "2020-06-14T00:47:41Z")
Unless admin change something, here’s how post editing works on Discourse. Post something. Notice a whoops and edit it. You have some time–roughly 5 minutes–to edit without an editing notice. After that time, you can still edit, but a yellow pencil appears that anybody can click on to see the edit history. Assuming those values hold Edits within 5 minutes–no notice, no yellow pencil, posters can’t see the original, neither can mods, admin _can_. After 5 minutes–notice displayed, yellow pencil displayed, everybody can see the edit history. ETA: Looks like the editing notice has been removed from some boards, at least. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/292 "2020-06-14T01:05:17Z")
I will say that I tried the Discourse demo site on my phone, and it’s a lot nicer to use there than the current board. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/293 "2020-06-14T01:19:30Z")
Oooh, I like having free edits but a visible edit history! That’s the best of both worlds. I can fix a typo, but if the next posts are confusing as a result, anyone can look to see what inspired them. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/294 "2020-06-14T01:56:54Z")
I am cautiously optimistic. I will miss the scripts I have been using to augment my user experience (I assume they won’t work over there) but those are minor negatives outweighed by the potential positives. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/295 "2020-06-14T05:02:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yeah, where’s the sport. Posting here will just become a routine, predictable task. Like being at work or something. Sigh. From what I’ve read on the demo site, it’s worse (better!) than that. The server saves a copy of your reply, so you can go search for stuff, read other posts and even log in from another computer and your reply will still be there. If you navigate away, it’s supposed to ask if you want to post it where it was originally, but it’s not supposed to disappear. If it works like it says on the demo site, that will be a huge improvement. No more copying in case something else is clicked by mistake. We’ll see if it really works like that, but wow! [I’m quoting it in case the demo version disappears] From the demo site: > [@](#): > > Yep, just use the search icon on the right side of the top toolbar. You can navigate around the site, quote other posts, etc… and the new post window will remain open at the bottom of the screen. > > When you submit the reply (and/or new topic) it will post to the proper location – though if you have navigated away, it will prompt you to make sure you’re on the correct topic, first: > [@](#): > > It’s also worth mentioning that we periodically save server-side drafts of your posts in the background, automatically, while you’re writing it. > > So you can even close the browser, turn off your computer, drive across town to an Internet cafe, log in… and pick up right where you left off composing your post! > > Note that the editor can be minimized with the down chevron at the upper right. I’ll do that now as I write this reply… > **[Can I find stuff while writing replies?](https://try.discourse.org/t/can-i-find-stuff-while-writing-replies/55)** > > I noticed that while I’m composing a post, I can continue to read the topic, which is great! Can I use the search function while I am writing a post? And what happens when I accidentally click a link, will I lose my post? Should I be saving... ---
**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/296 "2020-06-14T08:55:24Z")
Got a gateway error going from page 5 to page 6, so I’m packed and ready to go. However, I’m waiting until we move to try it out. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/297 "2020-06-14T10:38:21Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > NOTE: Make sure the quote and /quote tags are on lines by themselves or it’ll break your quote. Oh, man, that’s gonna hork a lot of old threads. Like this one. 😃 > [@Senegoid](#): > > Which, to get us familiar with their terminology, they call the “hamburger menu”. > > Is that a common term in modern netology? It’s the first I’ve ever seen it. The actual icon (three horizontal lines) is quite common, but this is the first I’ve seen it called “hamburger”. I ran across that at, of all places, work. Using a handheld, someone explaining how to do something said something about a hamburger. They had to show me what they meant. I don’t think of a hamburger when I see the three bars (or even three dots on some interfaces), but whatever. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/298 "2020-06-14T14:38:17Z")
Getting a lot of “you aren’t logged in” errors. Looking forward to the new home. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/299 "2020-06-14T15:57:52Z")
Hmmm… I’ve never gotten any of those. Am I missing out? I have FOMO\* big time, you know. - Fear of Missing Out ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/300 "2020-06-14T17:41:27Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Oh, man, that’s gonna hork a lot of old threads. Like this one. 😃 Oh. I didn’t think about that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380.md?page=16)