# It's that great getting up morning: The new site is nearly ready for you. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 10, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380 "2020-06-10T18:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/21 "2020-06-10T19:14:44Z")
Any upgrade is a good upgrade. I’m a wee bit concerned by posts like this: > [@Hello? Mods? TubaDiva?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hello-mods-tubadiva/848252/78): > > Discourse is pretty horrible. There’s no nesting option and it’s continuous scroll. Worst of all is that so very many of its internal functions are governed by number of likes received. It’s not for us unless there’s no other choice. From this [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22154621), but c’est la vie. Any port in a storm. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/22 "2020-06-10T19:22:23Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > Reminder to all - MAKE SURE YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS IN YOUR USER CONTROL PANEL IS UP TO DATE. Just in case. You work in software, if I’m not mistaken, so you know how good users are at following instructions. No matter what, you will have many PEBKAC errors. I assume that setting new passwords will involve following a link on an email? If that’s the case, I recommend you plan out how to handle people with bad email addresses in advance and post a sticky with clear instructions. Maybe that’s emailing a mod with their username and correct address, maybe it’s something else. Whatever you think is best, tell people, or you’ll be dealing with a bunch of people doing things you don’t want. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/23 "2020-06-10T19:25:41Z")
I’m afraid of change and therefore hate it already and it makes my teeth itch. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/24 "2020-06-10T19:33:00Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > I’m afraid of change and therefore hate it already and it makes my teeth itch. You won’t be alone, but with a some minor effort and a little help from your friends, you’ll get through it. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/25 "2020-06-10T19:33:44Z")
Will Tapatalk still work? ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/26 "2020-06-10T19:35:47Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > I bet a lot of people have invalid emails in their profile. Whatever email they had 20 years ago to setup the account may be long gone by now. Sure, it’s good advice to have a valid email in your profile, but it’s not really necessary to use the SDMB. Lots of people probably won’t be able to reset their password once we move to the new site. Even if the email thing is publicized, not everyone may be visiting the site at the moment. Hopefully there will be a way in the new site so that members with bad emails can get that fixed. > > I assume the discord website is using discord for their community forums. You can see an example here: [Categories - Discourse Meta](https://meta.discourse.org/categories) Discord and Discourse are not the same thing. We are moving to Discourse. > [@Pleonast](#): > > How will “fossilized” threads (like [Why bracelet? - Factual Questions - Straight Dope Message Board](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=1000) ) be handled? Just pulled that thread up on the new board. It looks like every other thread. > [@Tamerlane](#): > > Any upgrade is a good upgrade. I’m a wee bit concerned by posts like this: > > Quote: > Originally Posted by GreysonCarlisle > Discourse is pretty horrible. There’s no nesting option and it’s continuous scroll. Worst of all is that so very many of its internal functions are governed by number of likes received. It’s not for us unless there’s no other choice. > > From this [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22154621), but c’est la vie. Any port in a storm. That’s not how we’re using it. I believe you CAN look at it in that fashion if you want to. But threaded posts works too. > [@TroutMan](#): > > You work in software, if I’m not mistaken, so you know how good users are at following instructions. No matter what, you will have many PEBKAC errors. > > I assume that setting new passwords will involve following a link on an email? If that’s the case, I recommend you plan out how to handle people with bad email addresses in advance and post a sticky with clear instructions. Maybe that’s emailing a mod with their username and correct address, maybe it’s something else. Whatever you think is best, tell people, or you’ll be dealing with a bunch of people doing things you don’t want. All we can do is let people know. Which we are doing. So all of you go to your UserCP RIGHT DAMN NOW and check your information. Thank you. Jenny your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/27 "2020-06-10T19:36:48Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Any upgrade is a good upgrade. I’m a wee bit concerned by posts like this: > > From this [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22154621), but c’est la vie. Any port in a storm. Yep. That’s why I understand AK84’s reaction. The people of this board have specifically said that we don’t want the stuff that Discourse offers. We hate the idea of even being able to like posts. But Discourse takes that further, making it where that’s how you become a moderator–you get enough likes. I do not want my posts moderated by whoever the most popular Doper is. It does exactly what the conservative Dopers have been scared of, as that person will inevitably be liberal. It means people like me who accidentally got people to dislike him, will be in more danger of being punished. It’s not good at all. Unless they’ve neutered all these features, this will fundamentally change the board, in ways the users **and mods** have repeatedly said they don’t want. And not because it was the only option, as several other systems exist. The only reason I’m not jumping to the same conclusion is that I hope you’ve taken these concerns into account. That you are preserving the board working as close to the way it did before as you could. But your comment about how we’ll have to adapt to changes is rather foreboding. I can’t imagine the mods would have been on board with community moderation, and the fact at least one has seen the new board, and there’s been no sign of any of them quitting, gives me hope that you found a way to keep this from becoming a problem. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/28 "2020-06-10T19:37:41Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Will Tapatalk still work? I have been told you will not need Tapatalk; the mobile interface is robust enough that it should work for everyone as it stands. Jenny your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/29 "2020-06-10T19:38:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Will avatars carry over? On the test site (which several mods have been checking out) I can see the avatars of those that have them. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/30 "2020-06-10T19:38:34Z")
The change is good news, and I hope the board can start to attract new members again who will stick around. Change is good in general, it keeps the old synapses snapping. > [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > Reminder to all - MAKE SURE YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS IN YOUR USER CONTROL PANEL IS UP TO DATE. Just in case. Not to tell you your business (but of course I am) I trust this will be a bold sticky on every forum from now until go-live. eta: I don’t mean only **TubaDiva** ’s entire post, but also this headline just by itself. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/31 "2020-06-10T19:40:23Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yep. That’s why I understand AK84’s reaction. The people of this board have specifically said that we don’t want the stuff that Discourse offers. We hate the idea of even being able to like posts. But Discourse takes that further, making it where that’s how you become a moderator–you get enough likes. > > I do not want my posts moderated by whoever the most popular Doper is. It does exactly what the conservative Dopers have been scared of, as that person will inevitably be liberal. It means people like me who accidentally got people to dislike him, will be in more danger of being punished. It’s not good at all. > > Unless they’ve neutered all these features, this will fundamentally change the board, in ways the users **and mods** have repeatedly said they don’t want. And not because it was the only option, as several other systems exist. > > The only reason I’m not jumping to the same conclusion is that I hope you’ve taken these concerns into account. That you are preserving the board working as close to the way it did before as you could. But your comment about how we’ll have to adapt to changes is rather foreboding. > > I can’t imagine the mods would have been on board with community moderation, and the fact at least one has seen the new board, and there’s been no sign of any of them quitting, gives me hope that you found a way to keep this from becoming a problem. Discourse mentions that as a feature. But we are not using it. No, the crowd is not moderating the board. The moderators are moderating the board. Same as always. Jenny your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/32 "2020-06-10T19:41:55Z")
I think this is amazing news. Congratulations on getting this rock up the hill! Can someone share the link to the Discourse site or is that verboten? (Now I will hit post and wait for my error page…) ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/33 "2020-06-10T19:42:26Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > The change is good news, and I hope the board can start to attract new members again who will stick around. Change is good in general, it keeps the old synapses snapping. > > Not to tell you your business (but of course I am) I trust this will be a bold sticky on every forum from now until go-live. > > eta: I don’t mean only **TubaDiva** ’s entire post, but also this headline just by itself. Point taken. Thank you. Jenny your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![cardinal\_fang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal_fang/32/15316_2.png) [@cardinal\_fang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cardinal_fang)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/34 "2020-06-10T19:46:36Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > [snip] > Then we will kick the tires of the Discourse install, make sure everything is good to go, then switch the DNS settings to point the existing SDMB to the new Discourse install and we will be open for business as soon as that propagates. > [snip] Remember to lower the DNS record TTLs ahead of time. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/35 "2020-06-10T19:50:21Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Can someone share the link to the Discourse site or is that verboten? From the OP > [@TubaDiva](#): > > [What is Discourse? | Discourse - Civilized Discussion](https://www.discourse.org/about) Here’s the demo site linked from the link in TubaDiva’s post. > **[Discourse Demo](https://try.discourse.org/)** > > Demonstration sandbox for Discourse ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/36 "2020-06-10T19:51:01Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > All we can do is let people know. Which we are doing. > > So all of you go to your UserCP RIGHT DAMN NOW and check your information. You can do everything under the sun, and some people still will have invalid email addresses after migration. Without giving them instructions on what to do in that case, you’re going to get sock accounts or people who just leave the board. I’m recommending you give a little thought to the desired resolution for those people now. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/37 "2020-06-10T19:58:04Z")
The look and feel of the new site is as close as we can get it to what we have now. It’s not a perfect match, of course, but all of those optional features that we’ve chosen to turn off here, we’ve also chosen to turn off there. Of the differences, some I like, and some I dislike, but in any event it’s certainly better than the 502 and 504 errors we’ve been getting. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/38 "2020-06-10T19:58:44Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > From the OP > > Here’s the demo site linked from the link in TubaDiva’s post. > > [https://try.discourse.org/](https://try.discourse.org/) Our site is nowhere near as busy as the usual Discourse site, in keeping with our longstanding policies in that regard. So don’t assume the worst. Jenny your humble TubaDiva ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/39 "2020-06-10T20:04:02Z")
Change? You monsters!!! ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380/40 "2020-06-10T20:05:04Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > You can do everything under the sun, and some people still will have invalid email addresses after migration. Without giving them instructions on what to do in that case, you’re going to get sock accounts or people who just leave the board. I’m recommending you give a little thought to the desired resolution for those people now. I’m not sure what your expectations are here. We can only notify people and make this information freely available to them. That is what we are doing. If they disregard it, it’s on them. And that is sad. But you have semi-free will in this decision. Use wisely your power of choice. 😃 I would hope people would do the smart thing, the reasonable thing. We can’t guard against it. We can’t protect people from the consequences of their failure to act as we ask them to. We can’t force people to pay attention. Jenny your humble TubaDiva Administrator [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-that-great-getting-up-morning-the-new-site-is-nearly-ready-for-you/855380.md?page=3)