# It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 25, 2005, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909 "2005-10-25T23:33:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/1 "2005-10-25T23:33:10Z")

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One of my favorites is on tonight (I believe ABC) at 8:00 EST.

I just found out or I would have given you more notice.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/2 "2005-10-25T23:53:50Z")

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“I didn’t know you were going to kill it!”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/3 "2005-10-25T23:56:43Z")

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Be sure to catch [Medium Large](http://www.drinkatwork.com/mediumlarge.html) this week. They’re offering “deleted” scenes from the special. Tuesday’s is especially funny.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/4 "2005-10-26T00:03:35Z")

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I got a rock…

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**Author:** ![Indyellen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/indyellen/32/4176_2.png) [@Indyellen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indyellen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/5 "2005-10-26T01:03:25Z")

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Thank you, **Khadaji** , I just turned it (and the DVR) on. 🙂

“Never jump into a pile of leaves with a wet sucker.”

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/6 "2005-10-26T03:09:08Z")

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I hope that not too many people from work watched it, because I’m hosting a viewing of it at lunchtime on Thursday. 🙂

(Feel free to stop by if you’re in the area! ;))

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/7 "2005-10-26T06:31:00Z")

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Okay, debate time. Which one is better: _A Charlie Brown Christmas_ or _It’s the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown_?

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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**Author:** ![Torgo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@Torgo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torgo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/8 "2005-10-26T06:41:02Z")

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**A Charlie Brown Christmas** wins hands down. Its’ anti-commercialism message coupled with a rough-around-the-edges animation look has endeared it to audiences for decades; a true moldbreaker. **Great Pumpkin** falls a distant second and every other Peanuts animated special is regrettable to say the least.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/9 "2005-10-26T09:13:30Z")

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I can’t really say that one is better than the other. Neither one is meant to be the same. But I can say that A Charlie Brown Christmas is, hands down, the best Christmas special ever made. Not even How the Grinch Stole Christmas gets specific as to _why_ we have Christmas in the first place.

I once had the chance to read the second chapter of Luke in church, and in King James version too. I did not succumb, although I was mightily tempted at the end of it to say, instead of the usual “_The word of the Lord_” , " _and that’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown_" I didn’t, but I wanted to.

I love the Grinch, Rudolph, Frosty and so on. But Charlie Brown will never be topped in it’s category.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/10 "2005-10-26T10:20:31Z")

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> [@Torgo](#):
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> **A Charlie Brown Christmas** wins hands down. Its’ anti-commercialism message coupled with a rough-around-the-edges animation look has endeared it to audiences for decades; a true moldbreaker.

Yeah, but _Pumpkin_ has a beloved cartoon icon hiding in a bombed-out farmhouse to avoid the Boches while he makes his way back friendly lines to the western front!

(Y’know, as a little kid, the blending of fantasy and reality in that part did kinda confuse me a bit. I think I got that Snoopy wasn’t really flying, but what was with all the ruins and German artillery in the suburbs? Wouldn’t the gang run into that when they were trick or treating? :smack: 😃 )

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/11 "2005-10-26T11:53:25Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> Okay, debate time. Which one is better: _A Charlie Brown Christmas_ or _It’s the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown_?
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> Discuss amongst yourselves.

That’s a close one, but for me it is _A Charlie Brown Christmas._ I have it both on tape and on DVD.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/12 "2005-10-26T12:47:25Z")

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Great lines from from **The Great Pumpkin**. . .

Linus, “Charlie, you’ve heard about fury and the woman scorned, haven’t you?”

Charlie, “Yes, I guess I have.”

Or

Sally: I demand restitution!!!

I like the great pumpkin as much as the Christmas one. I really enjoy the trippy side bars.

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/13 "2005-10-26T14:37:10Z")

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Let’s compare:  
anti commercialism in CB Christmas vrs the Anti Santa message in the Great Pumpkin…

Poor old Chuck only gets rocks vrs He gets no Christmas cards

Great Music (just try to get the Christmas time music out of your head now) Vrs Schroder playing old WWI songs for Snoopy.

Red Baron vrs the Best decorated house contest

Linus’s letter to the Great Pumpkin vrs Sally’s letter to Santa. (10’s and 20’s)

Gotta go with A Charlie Brown Christmas.

By the way has there been a decent children’s Christmas special in the last 20 years?

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**Author:** ![Reloy3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@Reloy3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reloy3)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/14 "2005-10-26T16:40:50Z")

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> [@kingpengvin](#):
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> By the way has there been a decent children’s Christmas special in the last 20 years?

Yep, at least one: [Olive, the other reindeer](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227173/), already a must-watch classic at our house (along with MST - Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, but that’s just us).

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/15 "2005-10-26T16:46:30Z")

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Oh yes. Twelve Tiny Tales of Christmas. The best.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/16 "2005-10-26T16:49:42Z")

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> [@kingpengvin](#):
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> By the way has there been a decent children’s Christmas special in the last 20 years?

I missed your cutoff by 5 years, but [Emmet Otter](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075988/) deserves honorable mention at the very least.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/17 "2005-10-26T16:50:56Z")

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:smack: What year is this, again?

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/18 "2005-10-26T17:04:31Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> :smack: What year is this, again?

1. You were right the first time.

Now, go back to bed, Casey.

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**Author:** ![spiralscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spiralscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spiralscratch)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/19 "2005-10-26T19:24:20Z")

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> [@kingpengvin](#):
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> By the way has there been a decent children’s Christmas special in the last 20 years?

_A Wish For Wings That Work_ was pretty good. But then, I’m a Bloom County whore.

Still hoping for a DVD release.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-great-pumpkin-charlie-brown/327909/20 "2005-10-26T19:54:47Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> I hope that not too many people from work watched it, because I’m hosting a viewing of it at lunchtime on Thursday. 🙂
> 
> (Feel free to stop by if you’re in the area! ;))

I’m in! Where and what time? 🆒

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