# It's the Michael Jackson Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 14, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172 "2005-06-14T02:33:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/21 "2005-06-14T21:02:25Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> I didn’t want to tell anyone about **Dex** being there, damnit.

That was **Dex**? All I could make out was “Please untie me, **Skip**. I’ll do whatever you want. You’re the big dog.” over and over again, punctuated by weeping.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/22 "2005-06-14T21:22:14Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> That was **Dex**? All I could make out was “Please untie me, **Skip**. I’ll do whatever you want. You’re the big dog.” over and over again, punctuated by weeping.

Nevermind. Grandma just says crazy things. Ya’ know?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/23 "2005-06-14T21:31:19Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> Nevermind. Grandma just says crazy things. Ya’ know?

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/24 "2005-06-14T21:40:28Z")

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All right, you two. Get a room.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/25 "2005-06-14T21:41:31Z")

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> [@GaWd](#):
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> Guin, you have the strangest obsession with MJ…

What can I say? I found the whole trial and the hoopla surrounding it fascinating. I can’t explain it, it’s just like one big surreal circus train wreck and I can’t look away.

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/26 "2005-06-14T21:45:04Z")

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Put me down for a tabloid catching MJ holding hands with a new “special friend” by March. New allegations within 5 years. How much do I get if I win?

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/27 "2005-06-14T22:12:41Z")

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Has anyone taken noon Friday? If not, put me down for it.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/28 "2005-06-15T02:47:26Z")

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> [@Stuffy](#):
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> Put me down for a tabloid catching MJ holding hands with a new “special friend” by March. New allegations within 5 years. How much do I get if I win?

So allegations are all that is required to win this bet? And tabloid accounts qualify? Sheesh, you don’t set the bar very high, do you?

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/29 "2005-06-15T02:57:03Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> So allegations are all that is required to win this bet? And tabloid accounts qualify? Sheesh, you don’t set the bar very high, do you?

Hey, if I can step over it, less work for me 😃

Actually I think after this trial he’s bullet proof. I suspect we’ll be hearing allegations as long as he lives. I don’t for one minute thik he’ll change his ways, residence maybe, but the guy lives by his own peculiar rules.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/30 "2005-06-21T15:34:34Z")

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Hmmm. Interesting discussions, but nobody’s placing bets to speak of. So far, we’ve got “Christmas” and “immediately” taken. Anyone else want to pick a time?

And did anyone see Michael’s interview the other day where he said that he really likes twenty-nine year olds?

'cause there are twenty of them… 😃

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/31 "2005-06-21T16:11:06Z")

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I think it’s more likely that some allegations will come up from the past rather than new ones. Plus there’s the inevitable civil suit, which may also bring up past incidents that aren’t allowed in Criminal courts, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/32 "2005-06-21T17:38:54Z")

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I think you’re running the wrong sort of pool, **Clothahump**. What you should be taking bets on is when MJ flips out completely. When he loses the last tenuous shreds of reality.

Or when his face falls off.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/33 "2005-06-21T17:51:01Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> I think you’re running the wrong sort of pool, **Clothahump**. What you should be taking bets on is when MJ flips out completely. When he loses the last tenuous shreds of reality.
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> Or when his face falls off.

I think both of those have already happened.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/34 "2005-06-21T20:11:57Z")

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Wow, MJ seems to have boosted the “eccentric” standard a couple of hundred per cent.  
Howard Hughes is starting to look pretty normal now, isn’t he?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/35 "2005-06-21T21:28:31Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Hmmm. Interesting discussions, but nobody’s placing bets to speak of.

What is the bet? In the OP you said it was, “Guess how long it will be before Micheal has his hand in a new kid’s Underoos”, but idn’t provide any details on how this was to be determined. That somebody somewhere makes unproven allegations? Files new charges? Wins a conviction? I might be interested if you are a little more specific.

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**Author:** ![ltfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@ltfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ltfire)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/36 "2005-06-21T23:42:47Z")

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MJ could straighten out and fly right.

You haven’t seen OJ Simpson slashing and decapitating anyone in quite a while have you?

People can change.

BWAAAAAAHAHA!

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/37 "2005-06-22T01:24:26Z")

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> [@Washoe](#):
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> Well, he was threatening to leave the country if he was acquitted. Why doesn’t he just move to Guatemala, molest all the kids he wants, and just pay off the authorities to look the other way? You gotta start thinking outside the box, Michael—_outside the box…_ :rolleyes:

Michael doesn’t like boxes.

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**Author:** ![Sebensee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@Sebensee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sebensee)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/38 "2005-06-22T02:12:00Z")

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One of MJ’s accusers (now full grown) as he appeared in court to testify:

[http://www.brandchannel.com/features\_profile.asp?pr\_id=32](http://www.brandchannel.com/features_profile.asp?pr_id=32)

Underoos styles MJ (allegedly) likes best:  
[http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/8809/packages/bobafett.jpg](http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/8809/packages/bobafett.jpg)

[http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/8809/packages/chewbacca.jpg](http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/8809/packages/chewbacca.jpg)

[http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/8809/briefs/tonto.jpg](http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/8809/briefs/tonto.jpg)

[http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/8809/packages/ateam.jpg](http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/8809/packages/ateam.jpg)

[http://www.retrocrush.com/archive2004/underoos/](http://www.retrocrush.com/archive2004/underoos/)

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/39 "2005-06-22T04:12:16Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> What is the bet? In the OP you said it was, “Guess how long it will be before Micheal has his hand in a new kid’s Underoos”, but idn’t provide any details on how this was to be determined. That somebody somewhere makes unproven allegations? Files new charges? Wins a conviction? I might be interested if you are a little more specific.

We’re guessing the date of the next incident. The victim might not come forward for a while, but when he does, we’ll soon know when MJ first got his paws on the kid. That’s the date.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-michael-jackson-pool/308172/40 "2005-06-22T07:29:01Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> MJ wouldn’t last a week in Guatemala.

I must be missing something here. How, exactly, is this a bad thing?

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