# It's the official last Presidential Debate thread!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 15, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001 "2008-10-15T03:20:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/221 "2008-10-16T02:03:43Z")

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So what is a “refundable” tax-credit.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/222 "2008-10-16T02:04:02Z")

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How will Joe’s employees be insured, if he’s exempted from being required to insure them? Did Obama say something about this that I missed?

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/223 "2008-10-16T02:04:17Z")

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He really is a degenerate little shit isn’t he?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/224 "2008-10-16T02:04:19Z")

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Joe is a plumber. He’s not a nurse, or a carpenter or a lumberjack. He’s a plumber.

His name is Joe. He is rich.

Cut him to ribbons, Obama.

I am fascinated by McCain’s writing–whatever could he have to write down? His super secret plans on how to get Bin Laden, fix the economy, welcome our Columbian overlords?

What is it with McCain and cosmetic surgery and implants? Is Cindy addicted to that now?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/225 "2008-10-16T02:04:32Z")

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help a poor person who cant see the debate, what that “zero” stuff? are they debating japanese fighter planes?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/226 "2008-10-16T02:04:37Z")

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“Spread the wealth, rawwwwk! spread the wealth!”

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/227 "2008-10-16T02:05:00Z")

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> [@Martin\_Sable](#):
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> I’m voting for Obama, and McCain’s bizarre ongoing attacks on planetariums is driving me crazy.

Maybe we can introduce McCain to Dr. Adams and have him learn the wonder of the plane’arium.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/228 "2008-10-16T02:05:05Z")

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“And Joe, if you’re out there…I have a little leak under my bathroom sink…”

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/229 "2008-10-16T02:05:18Z")

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> [@Martin\_Sable](#):
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> Of course, I’m listening on the radio instead of watching on TV. I wonder how much of a difference that makes. It was a factor in the Kennedy/Nixon and Carter/Reagan debates.

I think it makes a big difference. I’ll readily believe that McCain is coming across better on radio than on TV.

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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/230 "2008-10-16T02:05:21Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> How will Joe’s employees be insured, if he’s exempted from being required to insure them? Did Obama say something about this that I missed?

They can purchase from the Federal plan I believe.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/231 "2008-10-16T02:05:25Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> help a poor person who cant see the debate, what that “zero” stuff? are they debating japanese fighter planes?

McCain desperately wants to know what Obama will fine small businesses if they don’t provide healthcare for people. Obama said “Zero” and McCain looked fucking knocked out of his chair.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/232 "2008-10-16T02:05:34Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> I think this was a really clever and successful move.
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> -FrL-

Not to mention hilarious. I especially loved the “…if you are out there…”. Obama fucking pwned McCain’s ass by simultaneously co-opting and mocking his sound bite.

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/233 "2008-10-16T02:05:45Z")

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Joe Plumber _can_ buy a business now!!

Congrats, Joe!

Sigh, McCain gets a better smoother delivery here.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/234 "2008-10-16T02:05:45Z")

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Did he just say Obama will drive a gold plated Cadillac?

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**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/235 "2008-10-16T02:05:58Z")

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You can tell Senator Obama is getting tired of this “fine” bullshit.

Excuse me, I mean Senator _GOVERNMENT_. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/236 "2008-10-16T02:06:31Z")

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Joe the Plumber ends up rich under McCain’s plan! Go Joe!

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/237 "2008-10-16T02:06:32Z")

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McCains needs to stop bugging his eyes like that.

I’m not a plumber and my name ain’t Joe. Why are they talking to Joe but not to me?!

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/238 "2008-10-16T02:06:49Z")

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Joe’s rich?

Damn plumbers. They always overcharge.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/239 "2008-10-16T02:07:01Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> McCain desperately wants to know what Obama will fine small businesses if they don’t provide healthcare for people. Obama said “Zero” and McCain looked fucking knocked out of his chair.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![ShermanAter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ShermanAter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShermanAter)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/240 "2008-10-16T02:07:13Z")

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Horse shit Mc same

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