# It's the official last Presidential Debate thread! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 15, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001 "2008-10-15T03:20:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Fair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@Lillith\_Fair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lillith_Fair)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/241 "2008-10-16T02:07:15Z")
“Democrats have been in charge of Congress for the last two years.” They don’t have enough to override a veto. How many years were the Republicans in control? Twelve? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/242 "2008-10-16T02:07:17Z")
Good god. Roe v. Wade? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/243 "2008-10-16T02:07:44Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Not to mention hilarious. I especially loved the “…if you are out there…”. Obama fucking pwned McCain’s ass by simultaneously co-opting and mocking his sound bite. I love it! But it’s such a subtle thing that only a few people will notice. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/244 "2008-10-16T02:07:47Z")
Joe the Plumber will now be performing abortions. I wonder if he’ll get a tax credit. (“I remove clogs… that’s how I got rich biatch!”) ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/245 "2008-10-16T02:08:01Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > So what is a “refundable” tax-credit. Some tax credits are refundable in the sense that if your tax bill is reduced to zero you can still claim a credit. Some only reduce whatever tax bill you have. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/246 "2008-10-16T02:08:02Z")
McCain is seriously whistling his S sounds. Once I noticed it, it started driving me crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/247 "2008-10-16T02:08:16Z")
I really wonder how McCain can talk about Joe with a straight face. Smooth delivery, dumb lines, like some of the worst movies I have watched. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/248 "2008-10-16T02:08:31Z")
I like how Obama said “_if_ you’re out there, Joe”. Made McCain seem like he’s been talking about his invisible blue-collar friend. ETA: Damn, I’m slow. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/249 "2008-10-16T02:08:37Z")
> [@Martin\_Sable](#): > > Of course, I’m listening on the radio instead of watching on TV. I wonder how much of a difference that makes. It was a factor in the Kennedy/Nixon and Carter/Reagan debates. You’re lucky. You’re not seeing the constant smirk on McCain’s face when he’s not talking. He’s not even trying to look serious while Obama is talking. He’s either smirking or smiling, no matter what Obama is saying. It’s really disgusting and rude. Not that Obama isn’t smiling to himself every now and then, but most of the time he looks like he’s seriously listening to what McCain is saying. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/250 "2008-10-16T02:08:38Z")
McCain could probably stand to get a clue that plumbers who have enough money to buy an existing business are probably not hurting too much. A plumber starting his own business from scratch would be a different story. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/251 "2008-10-16T02:08:44Z")
Wait … weren’t the federalists all about centralizing power in a federal government? So how does McCain call himself a federalist right after saying he’s all about doing it at the state level? ---
**Author:** ![Indyellen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/indyellen/32/4176_2.png) [@Indyellen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indyellen)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/252 "2008-10-16T02:08:50Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Joe the Plumber will now be performing abortions. That’s how he got rich, dontcha know. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/253 "2008-10-16T02:08:52Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I think it makes a big difference. I’ll readily believe that McCain is coming across better on radio than on TV. In all honesty, I don’t think too many people are listening on the radio in 2008. 1960 was another world. If they are, they’re in AZ, CA, OR, WA, AK, HI. All states that are not competitive. ---
**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/254 "2008-10-16T02:08:56Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Joe the Plumber will now be performing abortions. In the backseat of Sen. Government’s gold plated Cadillac ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/255 "2008-10-16T02:09:32Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Joe the Plumber will now be performing abortions. > > I wonder if he’ll get a tax credit. > > (“I remove clogs… that’s how I got rich biatch!”) Keep Joe the Plumber out of my plumbing! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/256 "2008-10-16T02:09:53Z")
I’m recalling Eddie Izzard’s line about the royal family: “So you’re a plumber… what on _Earth_ is that?” ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Cream_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/257 "2008-10-16T02:10:02Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > McCain is seriously whistling his S sounds. Once I noticed it, it started driving me crazy. You bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/258 "2008-10-16T02:10:06Z")
Oh crap, Obama supports Roe v Wade. He just lost the religous right wing. OH NOEZ! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/259 "2008-10-16T02:10:13Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > You’re lucky. You’re not seeing the constant smirk on McCain’s face when he’s not talking. He’s not even trying to look serious while Obama is talking. He’s either smirking or smiling, no matter what Obama is saying. It’s really disgusting and rude. Not that Obama isn’t smiling to himself every now and then, but most of the time he looks like he’s seriously listening to what McCain is saying. The impression I get from Obama’s smiles is “there you go again.” ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-official-last-presidential-debate-thread/468001/260 "2008-10-16T02:10:20Z")
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