# It's the weekly lissener pitting!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 26, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251 "2008-09-26T00:01:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/21 "2008-09-26T01:28:09Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Sorry, **Skald** me lad, but I’m a little short on outrage this week, so I’m compelled to save what I’ve got for something a bit more consequential.

Ok. Um.. how about the [del]word[/del] coinage _diminuation_? Or possibly the gasoline shortage in Atlanta. Or Pakistan.

[QUOTE=TVeblen]

[Quote=mhendo  
Veb, i think your post is unfair. It suggests that, in this particular case, lissener did something to deserve the pitting, or is somehow to blame for this thread.  
[/quote]

You probably have a valid point, mhendo. I’m willing to believe that because 1. I barely skimmed that thread earlier in the day before abandoning it for getting hinky in a lot of directions and 2. you usually do. Make valid points, that is.

My point–because I’m quite sure I started out with one–is that it seems like some people on this board are hypersensitized by lissener. He can rub people the wrong way. Allergic reactions may occur. He ain’t everybody’s tipple. Approach with caution. May cause swelling and redness.

I have no idea if lissener was innocent as a newborn puppy in that thread. He may have been.

My wail of distaste was for his being Pitted again at all, right on the heels of the last one. Maybe the overload is only in my perceptions. But I’m really, really sick and tired of All About Lissener.  
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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/22 "2008-09-26T01:32:18Z")

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I just hope nobody asks you to write any essays on the subject of misogyny!

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/23 "2008-09-26T01:34:08Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Sorry, **Skald** me lad, but I’m a little short on outrage this week, so I’m compelled to save what I’ve got for something a bit more consequential.

Ok. Um.. how about the [del]word[/del] coinage _diminuation_? Or possibly the gasoline shortage in Atlanta. Or Pakistan.

[QUOTE=TVeblen]

[Quote=mhendo  
Veb, i think your post is unfair. It suggests that, in this particular case, lissener did something to deserve the pitting, or is somehow to blame for this thread.  
[/quote]

You probably have a valid point, mhendo. I’m willing to believe that because 1. I barely skimmed that thread earlier in the day before abandoning it for getting hinky in a lot of directions and 2. you usually do. Make valid points, that is.

My point–because I’m quite sure I started out with one–is that it seems like some people on this board are hypersensitized by lissener. He can rub people the wrong way. Allergic reactions may occur. He ain’t everybody’s tipple. Approach with caution. May cause swelling and redness.

I have no idea if lissener was innocent as a newborn puppy in that thread. He may have been.

My wail of distaste was for his being Pitted again at all, right on the heels of the last one. Maybe the overload is only in my perceptions. But I’m really, really sick and tired of All About Lissener.  
[/QUOTE]

**TVeblen** , I admit to being hypersensitive about lissener. Had another poster written the exact same thing, I would have argue by not pitted. I’ll concede this thread was unwarranted.

[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
Yeah, well, I think [Skald] shouldn’t have hijacked. You didn’t have one thing to say about the OP but just came in there to start your little fight. Lissener didn’t do anything to cause a fight, and I hatehatehate threadjackers.

And personally I think your post was juuuust on this side of being inappropriate for CS.  
[/QUOTE]

Actually I came in to say–well, something. I don’t remember now, but it was both about Linda Hamilton and fairly snarky. But when I saw lissener’s remark I was irked–unduly, as I wrote above, because I find him irksome in so many other threads.

And, **Anaamika** , I don’t know if you saw, but I apolgized for the hijack in the other thread.

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/24 "2008-09-26T01:52:04Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> See [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10242436&postcount=38)post and next few after for some context.
> 
> And now the pitting:
> 
> Dear **lissener** :
> 
> I opened this thread intending to call you a moron. But upon mature reflection that is unfair. You see, I knew a guy named Billy once who was trapped under the ice as a grade schooler, whose IQ was probably somewhere between 51 & 70; in short he was a [moron](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_(psychology)), in the discredited sense of the word. But Billy was a good guy, and I would not seek to associate him with you in any sense.
> 
> You see, lissener, you long ago passed moronity. You are is disingenuous as Alberto Gonzalez, as dishonest as Karl Rove, as insincere as Eddie Haskill,
> 
> \*\*and as cuddly as a crocodile. \*\*
> 
> It is quite clear that your primary motive for posting hereabouts is to be as contrary as possible, and your motive for behaving thus is to reassure yourself, if not others, that you are more highly evolved than the rest of us, superior in charm, in wit, in taste, and in verve. But you are not. You are the sort of poncy git whom other poncy gits lock out of the monthly Poncy Git meetings because the stink of your aura of self-satisfaction irritates the sinuses. Please take your next shower using actual tap water rather than your usual rose-scented cologne, lest you trigger a lethal asthma attack on one of the weaker gits.
> 
> Smooches!

Hey wait a minute. I think he’s kind of kind cute.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/25 "2008-09-26T02:08:23Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Ok. Um.. how about the [del]word[/del] coinage _diminuation_? Or possibly the gasoline shortage in Atlanta. Or Pakistan.

Diminuation? I will express my opinion thusly: the first word of this post represents the only time you will ever see that word written by me. Ever.

As for the gasoline shortage in Atlanta, if they have no gas, then let them pump diesel.

As for Pakistan, I was sadly unaware of the gas shortage there. Perhaps our troops in Afghanistan can lend them some, since they seem to be making frequent sightseeing trips over the border anyway.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/26 "2008-09-26T02:13:19Z")

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This is pretty pathetic, [his last pitting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=484204)is still on the front page. Worse yet he posted to it at Today 06:44 PM.

A lame pitting and very inappropriately timed. What were you thinking?

Jim

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/27 "2008-09-26T02:15:05Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> What were you thinking?

My guess? “Bbbbblblltygrbbblllurbleurbleurble!”

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/28 "2008-09-26T14:22:03Z")

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I don’t understand why the OP wouldn’t just start a thread in IMHO or even possibly GD about the differences between “lookism” and “misogyny”. A pit thread seems like the OP can’t argue his/her point without resulting in name calling.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/29 "2008-09-26T14:47:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> A pit thread seems like the OP can’t argue his/her point without resulting in name calling.

I think **mhendo** nailed it. The OP doesn’t really have a point but just wanted to slag off a bit, and hide the essential emptiness of the venting behind a hoped-for pile-on.

Weak, **Skald** , very weak.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/30 "2008-09-26T15:08:24Z")

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**Lissener** and I haven’t always gotten along, and I have, in fact, pitted him in the not-to-distant past (on, among other things, my perception that he’s a misogynist, interestingly enough) – but this time I’m going to come down firmly on his side.

You’re acting like an asshole, **Skald.** You might want to look into getting your meds adjusted.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/31 "2008-09-26T15:55:30Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
This is pretty pathetic, his last pitting is still on the front page. Worse yet he posted to it at Today 06:44 PM.

A lame pitting and very inappropriately timed. What were you thinking?  
[/QUOTE]

That I dislike **lissener** , obviously. But that wasn’t a valid reason to open a Pit thread; his offense was not nearly bad enough.

[QUOTE=stpauler]

I don’t understand why the OP wouldn’t just start a thread in IMHO or even possibly GD about the differences between “lookism” and “misogyny”. A pit thread seems like the OP can’t argue his/her point without resulting in name calling.  
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cervaise]

I think mhendo nailed it. The OP doesn’t really have a point but just wanted to slag off a bit, and hide the essential emptiness of the venting behind a hoped-for pile-on.

Weak, Skald, very weak.

[/quote]

[QUOTE=twickster]  
**Lissener** and I haven’t always gotten along, and I have, in fact, pitted him in the not-to-distant past (on, among other things, my perception that he’s a misogynist, interestingly enough) – but this time I’m going to come down firmly on his side.

You’re acting like an asshole, **Skald.** You might want to look into getting your meds adjusted.  
[/QUOTE]

I’ll agree that my opening this thread was assholery. I’m not saying I have changed my mind on the misogyny versus lookism issue; I’m saying that if you or almost anyone else on the boards had made the same assertion that \*\*lissener \*\*did, I wouldn’t have pitted. I permitted my personal dislike of lissener to make me behave badly. I should not have done it, and I apologize.

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/32 "2008-09-26T15:58:49Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> That I dislike **lissener** , obviously. But that wasn’t a valid reason to open a Pit thread; his offense was not nearly bad enough.  
> I’ll agree that my opening this thread was assholery. I’m not saying I have changed my mind on the misogyny versus lookism issue; I’m saying that if you or almost anyone else on the boards had made the same assertion that \*\*lissener \*\*did, I wouldn’t have pitted. I permitted my personal dislike of lissener to make me behave badly. I should not have done it, and I apologize.

Good post. Now please send it to lissener.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/33 "2008-09-26T16:01:08Z")

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Well owning up to it and apologizing is the right thing to do. Good deal!

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/34 "2008-09-26T16:01:41Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> Good post. Now please send it to lissener.

Not to be all twelve years old, but as lissener has neither posted in this thread nor sent me a PM regarding it, I have no reason to think he’s read it. If he asks me for a private apology, I’ll send one; but having apologized publicly, I see no reason no repeat it.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/35 "2008-09-26T16:29:00Z")

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Wilson Mizner said it best: “A good lissener is not only popular everywhere, but, after a while, knows something”

How many more times is \*\*lissener \*\*going to have to prove that to you? 😃

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/36 "2008-09-26T17:05:24Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Not to be all twelve years old, but as lissener has neither posted in this thread nor sent me a PM regarding it, I have no reason to think he’s read it. If he asks me for a private apology, I’ll send one; but having apologized publicly, I see no reason no repeat it.

Oh. Are you 13 already?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/37 "2008-09-26T17:07:37Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> Oh. Are you 13 already?

You really are a mom aren’t you?😉

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/38 "2008-09-26T17:11:08Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> Oh. Are you 13 already?

Look. I insulted \*\*lissener \*\*in public I was taken to task by persons other than \*\*lissener \*\*in public. After reading the protests, I decided that I was in the wrong and conceded that I was wrong, in in public, three times.

None of this was in private. The only person privileged to demand a private apology would be the target of the original & misguided pitting. As you are not he, why are you pushing this?

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/39 "2008-09-26T18:13:32Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Look. I insulted \*\*lissener \*\*in public I was taken to task by persons other than \*\*lissener \*\*in public. After reading the protests, I decided that I was in the wrong and conceded that I was wrong, in in public, three times.
> 
> None of this was in private. The only person privileged to demand a private apology would be the target of the original & misguided pitting. As you are not he, why are you pushing this?

Because…I am the voice of righteousness.

Isn’t this funny that in the other thread, I take a totally different stance. C’mon dude.

I was really only kidding in the first post. Really!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-the-weekly-lissener-pitting/465251/40 "2008-09-26T19:25:54Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I’m saying that if you or almost anyone else on the boards had made the same assertion that \*\*lissener \*\*did, I wouldn’t have pitted. I permitted my personal dislike of lissener to make me behave badly. I should not have done it, and I apologize.

Good job.

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