# It's Time Again for Stoid! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375 "2015-12-04T03:10:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/301 "2015-12-19T14:40:15Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > Ayup. But it’s OK because Stoid. Ahh… **Stoid** and I are both '99ers on this Board, but my first remembered experience with a thread of hers was the “Legal Appeal”. A classic SDMB thread if there ever was one. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/302 "2015-12-21T05:39:33Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Do you “know how it’s going to go” because you also know you are misstating the facts? Because that makes a lot more sense than believing someone so keenly interested knowing, dissecting, hashing and judging the details of my life would simultaneously prove to be so utterly hopeless at retaining them with any degree of accuracy. > > •The klonopin were mailed _to_ me, not from me. My friend thought I might toss and turn in the wake of Zu’s death, not realizing that my natural response to grief is to slip into something of a “grief coma” without any chemical assistance at all. It’s being alert and functional that’s challenging. (The book about the Chilean rugby team that ended up eating their friends to survive after crashing in the Andes described how one of the team just crawled to the farthest corner of the plane and pretty much stayed asleep for most of the time they were there. I totally identify with that guy.) I still have 11 of the 12. > > •Tex the gardener got two .25 Xanax, and did not replace them, but as we know that relationship got very weird. > > •No one ever used the dog syringes, by the way, which were proffered in response to a request for tranquilizers to help my friend sleep since she expected not to be able to very well, being the reverse of me in that respect. > > •My dad gave me a handful of Vicodin to deal with the toothache until I got down to ol’ MeHeeKo to see my dentist. Being an invalid as a result of crippling arthritis, he’s got lots of pain meds. > > •My best pal has hit me up for my little xanax stash a few times, she uses them to help her sleep and has her own prescription, she just comes to me when she hasn’t dealt with making sure she has hers. I always have them because my doc writes as though I take them daily so a single prescription tends to take months to run out. I don’t really like being sleepy and out of it as a way to cope with intense anxiety that I sometimes have to manage, as I just described I’m perfectly capable of checking out like that totally drug free. so I was the one who asked him if I might not actually find it more useful to take beta blockers to deal with intense anxiety instead, and he thought that was a splendid idea. I use Xanax if I have an anxiety issue at normal sleep times or just to help me sleep when it’s a little more difficult, usually because of RLS. > > I am pretty sure my sisters asked me to scrounge up some kind of tranquilizers for them when our mother died, but I don’t remember one way or another whether it went beyond that. > > And that’s pretty much my entire drug dealing and abusing career over the last decade or so.The decade before that was far less chemically altered than the decades before and after, not much of anything at all was happening, drugwise, and back in my twenties I still used drugs for entertainment. MeHeeKo? Really!? ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/303 "2015-12-21T07:20:12Z")
Of course! It’s all so simple and straight forward! As stated, my home has enough nasties to feed all of **Stoid** ’s buddies. I did not recognize the name “Klonopin” - I know it as clonazepam - it is an anti-anxiety drug roughly equivalent to Xanax. It has a useful side-effect with me - sleep\*. When these drugs are restricted as are the opiates because of asshole abuse, I am going to be really, really pissed. - - I have puberty-onset insomnia. I cannot sleep without drugs. Yes - 4 days straight, no sleep - lie in bed for 10 hours, wide awake - type insomnia. Benzos are marginally better than ETOH and diphenhydramine. Or so I thought back in 2000 when I finally agreed with my MD that I should try them. I can get these drugs because the police do NOT notice an uptick in drug use every month when I get a refill. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/304 "2015-12-21T08:01:04Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > MeHeeKo? Really!? you bet! I love my dentist… he did a fantastic job with the root canal and cap for less than half of the quotes I was getting in LA. I was skeptical, but several friends reported excellent care and prices and they were absolutely right. if you live near the border and you don’t want to pay a fortune for dental care, its the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/305 "2015-12-21T13:02:27Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > MeHeeKo? Really!? Methinks Stoid does not understand. She’s thick as a brick, that one. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/306 "2015-12-21T14:11:24Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Methinks Stoid does not understand. Ayup. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/307 "2015-12-21T14:14:24Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > you bet! I love my dentist… he did a fantastic job with the root canal and cap for less than half of the quotes I was getting in LA. I was skeptical, but several friends reported excellent care and prices and they were absolutely right. if you live near the border and you don’t want to pay a fortune for dental care, its the way to go. Let me guess… he looks like the Frito Bandido, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/308 "2015-12-21T15:07:33Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Methinks Stoid does not understand. She’s thick as a brick, that one. Oh, thicker! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/309 "2015-12-22T16:24:03Z")
My dentist laughs when he sees it’s me in the chair, all prepped for surgery. He looks over at his new assistant and says “You’re going to love this… okay, digs. How much novacaine do you want?” “Rather have the pain than the drugs, doc.” The asst looks on confused as the old dentist laughs. Not sure why it’s SO funny. A couple of minutes of zen-like “focusing through the pain” and I’m done with it… no numb lips, slurred speech or fogginess. Also spent years in spinal pain… til I couldn’t walk and my insurance _finally_ agreed to pay for a proper diagnosis and I got it fixed. Again, chose the pain over the drugs. I’m betting that’s foreign to _some ::cough:: Stoid people._ ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/310 "2015-12-22T16:33:34Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Also spent years in spinal pain… til I couldn’t walk and my insurance _finally_ agreed to pay for a proper diagnosis and I got it fixed. Again, chose the pain over the drugs. > > I’m betting that’s foreign to _some ::cough:: Stoid people._ There’s a few billion people on this Earth who live in pain every day. None of us are unique in that as much as it may feel that way with people like you trying to shame us about wanting relief while showing how awesome you are to choose to face it every time. Choosing pain isn’t some kind of noble exercise. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/311 "2015-12-22T18:15:53Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > There’s a few billion people on this Earth who live in pain every day. None of us are unique in that as much as it may feel that way with people like you trying to shame us about wanting relief while showing how awesome you are to choose to face it every time. > > Choosing pain isn’t some kind of noble exercise. I knew I was being dickesque, but I was really just trying to shame Stoid… …but that’s pointless, isn’t it? Example was of small, short-lived pain, and does NOT apply to anyone with real, chronic pain. Apologies and admiration to you all\*. \*Except Stoid, 'cause her thread. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/312 "2015-12-22T23:53:50Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I knew I was being dickesque, but I was really just trying to shame Stoid… > > …but that’s pointless, isn’t it? Yeah, pretty much… Not because I’m not capable of shame… [li]god, if only… it’s like a fucking cancer… the ol’ ball ‘n’ chain of shame… [/li] I’m just not capable of being badgered / taunted / bullied into feeling shame because other people think I should feel shame over things that I feel perfectly comfortable with. Which would describe all the the silliness in these threads about me and drugs. And I also can’t be made to feel shame over the fact that I have no pain threshold to speak of… how did you know? Fortunately so far I haven’t had all that much pain in my life. (That was kind of out of left field, wasn’t it? I guess you were assuming that I’m constantly seeking pain medication or something?) If I am ever afflicted with something really painful or which requires really painful/alarming treatment, I suspect I won’t have to live with it for very long since it’s a pretty good bet my caregivers will probably kill me just to shut me the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/313 "2015-12-23T02:44:06Z")
> [@digs](#): > > My dentist laughs when he sees it’s me in the chair, all prepped for surgery. He looks over at his new assistant and says “You’re going to love this… okay, digs. How much novacaine do you want?” “Rather have the pain than the drugs, doc.” The asst looks on confused as the old dentist laughs. Not sure why it’s SO funny. A couple of minutes of zen-like “focusing through the pain” and I’m done with it… no numb lips, slurred speech or fogginess. > > Also spent years in spinal pain… til I couldn’t walk and my insurance _finally_ agreed to pay for a proper diagnosis and I got it fixed. Again, chose the pain over the drugs. > > I’m betting that’s foreign to _some ::cough:: Stoid people._ Heh…you’d laugh here - we even get a local anasthetic as a matter of course when donating blood (I donated on Sunday, and the nurse didn’t even asked if I wanted it, just went ahead and administered) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/314 "2015-12-23T05:03:57Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > …(That was kind of out of left field, wasn’t it? I guess you were assuming that I’m constantly seeking pain medication or something?) Damn, I’ve never been wrong about more things at one time. You’re right, I was assuming you react to physical and/or emotional pain with pharmaceuticals (because your first reaction to someone in need is to fill your pockets with Anal Doggie Drugs\*). I stand corrected. Look, don’t let the rest of the Pit know that I was talking to you like a human being, mmkay? \*Do you have [Analdoggiedrugs.Wordpress.com](http://Analdoggiedrugs.Wordpress.com) registered yet? ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/315 "2015-12-23T06:11:12Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Damn, I’ve never been wrong about more things at one time. You’re right, I was assuming you react to physical and/or emotional pain with pharmaceuticals (because your first reaction to someone in need is to fill your pockets with Anal Doggie Drugs\*). They asked. And “they” are two of my dearest friends in the world. They ask for anything and if it’s within my power, I give. I used to eat about 40 ibuprofen per menstrual cycle, surprised I didn’t trash my stomach. Hell, if I get a hangnail I need to go lie down. Total wuss. But as utterly weak and useless as I am with physical pain, I’m kind of an Ironman when it comes to emotional pain. Not because I don’t feel it, but because I do…I walk right through it with guts exposed and shredded. I can’t count the number of times friends have told me they could never have withstood the things I have. My boundaryless-ness means no compartmentalizing until a more convenient time… all in, all the way, until I’ve felt and processed every little bit of it. I don’t drink or take anything, that doesn’t help. (I do tend to sleep a lot, but mostly because I’m exhausted!) But as a result I generally recover very well, my sorrows and griefs don’t linger and make me feel fragile, and I am generally very happy with life, even when it kicks me in the ass, because it’s all part of it, and I love being alive. And I’m very good with others’ pain; I’m at ease with grief, it doesn’t make me uncomfortable or nervous, I don’t fumble around not knowing what to do when people are hurting, I know exactly what to do. It is a gift I’m very grateful for because it is something of real value I can give to those I love. I can be shockingly useless when it comes to a lot of normal human activities and behaviors, but according to the reports from the people who actually know, it seems I’m something of an exceptional friend. So when I am feeling particularly broken and hopeless (and shamed…though I’m working on that because it’s SO counterproductive…) I remember that yeah, I do bring something of real value that justifies my continuing to take up space on the planet. Whew… > [@](#): > > Look, don’t let the rest of the Pit know that I was talking to you like a human being, mmkay? Oh I’m sure they won’t hold it against you for too long. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/316 "2015-12-23T07:00:09Z")
My hugs are so earnest and wholesome, they cause physical pain and temporary blindness to bystanders. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/317 "2015-12-23T08:07:33Z")
Stoid: the fairy godmother of drug dealers. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/318 "2015-12-23T08:27:09Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > And I’m very good with others’ pain Pharmacist good though, not Therapist good. ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/319 "2015-12-23T19:09:11Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > I can’t count the number of times friends have told me they could never have withstood the things I have. You realize this is just a comforting thing to say to someone in pain, right? This is a phrase uttered by someone who is emotionally taking care of someone having a hard time. It is not literally true. If you hear this often enough to lose count, you aren’t the emotional rock you think you are. > [@](#): > > My boundaryless-ness means no compartmentalizing until a more convenient time… It apparently also means regularly being such a wreck that your friends need to give you inspirational boosts such as the above. > [@](#): > > And I’m very good with others’ pain Congratufuckinglations. Such an accomplishment. > [@](#): > > it seems I’m something of an exceptional friend. Your opinion of yourself knows no bounds. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/320 "2015-12-23T19:59:22Z")
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