# It's Time Again for Stoid!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 4, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375 "2015-12-04T03:10:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/21 "2015-12-04T16:42:46Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> **usedtobe** : You’ve just discovered how whacked Stoid is and what happens when you point that out. She’s got her sympathizers, so, you’re screwed. It doesn’t matter how right you are to them. Actually, I’d say it’s actually that those sympathizers are more sympathetic to certain “hot button” issues and it’s those issues that Stoid is manipulating to get a groundswell, nay, a tsunami of support here. Do yourself a favor if you cannot train yourself to just bypass her posts–put her on ignore and improve your enjoyment of this site by decreasing the amount of stupidity you’re exposed to.

See, here’s delusional. You’re trying to argue that this board actually has sympathy for people who fuck up, and will put it over skepticism and facts. You think that a board whipping boy like **Stoid** has more defenders than detractors. I want to know what the fuck you’re smoking.

**usedtobe** has no fucking case. Even you are having to add shit that he didn’t even say to come up with reasons to be upset at **Stoid** , as his case is so fucking stupid.

And speaking of those reasons, did you even read the OP? He’s trying to argue that she’s a pet abuser and drug pusher. There’s your fucking hot button topics that the Dope goes nuts about. And you fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/22 "2015-12-04T16:46:04Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I also know that this kind of casual multi-drug abuse is very common among women in the 55-70 age group, especially women that live alone. But that doesn’t make it normal and it certainly doesn’t make it healthy behavior.

My mother is 77 and has a raft of real and imagined health issues. She’s also on pain meds and, according to my father, is at times taking more than her prescription allows for and lying about it.

So what’s the first thing my mother did when I got all sorts of pain prescriptions this year for my back issues?

Asked me if she could have any of them. :smack:

For the record, my answer was no.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/23 "2015-12-04T16:56:31Z")

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> [@WF\_Tomba](#):
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> I mean, why believe the stories about casually distributing drugs and _pro se_ lawyering? Couldn’t it all be a big troll?

If I am not mistaken, in one of her threads about her unfortunate attempt in appeals court, she linked to an online version of her plea, or something like that. I think it was redacted because it revealed her real name. So for once in her life, she came up with a useful cite.

As far as her drug distribution, I believe that too, but it is based on no more than “she sounds like someone who would do something like that” and that is based entirely on her posting history. IOW she sounds to me like someone who is, or has been, on a wide variety of psychoactive drugs.

Nor do I have much trouble believing that she comes across like that IRL. Thus if she showed up in the vet’s office saying “here is a whole batch of Google cites that say you should give me Valium. And it’s for the dog. Really!!” the vet would refuse to give her the drugs, and not necessarily out of a callous indifference to canine suffering.

I have no direct knowledge of any of this, and I could be wrong. I could also be a two-headed space alien posting from the planet Zirkon - how can you be sure?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/24 "2015-12-04T17:03:42Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I don’t have the patience to slog through most stoid threads once they get beyond a page or two. But is she actually a “Valium abuser” or did she just mention once that she gave a friend a few of her own Valium because she thought the friend needed them? If it’s the latter, well, please. Everyone does that.

Yeah, I don’t have a particularly strong opinion about most of this, but… no. Everyone does not do that. Everyone should _stop_ doing that, if they are.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/25 "2015-12-04T17:11:22Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Just ask yourself what the odds of one person having two seizure-prone dogs might be.

Odds? Getting a pet is not a random event. We knew our current dog was epileptic when we were considering rescuing her, and we decided that we were good potential owners for her because we’d had a lot of experience medicating our previous dog when she had heart and kidney problems.

Someone who has had multiple dogs with health problems has presumably sought them out. Maybe it’s an elaborate scheme of drug-seeking, or maybe it’s someone taking on pets that they think would otherwise be overlooked.

And again, my vet was quite clear to me that rectal valium is the standard of care for home treatment of status epilepticus (and I’ve done it, although it’s not always effective).

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/26 "2015-12-04T17:19:36Z")

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If you read the OP in the linked thread, you’ll see that the seizures just started recently so **Stoid** did not seek out the dog because of its affliction.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/27 "2015-12-04T17:20:10Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> See, here’s delusional. You’re trying to argue that this board actually has sympathy for people who fuck up, and will put it over skepticism and facts. You think that a board whipping boy like **Stoid** has more defenders than detractors. I want to know what the fuck you’re smoking.
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> **usedtobe** has no fucking case. Even you are having to add shit that he didn’t even say to come up with reasons to be upset at **Stoid** , as his case is so fucking stupid.
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> And speaking of those reasons, did you even read the OP? He’s trying to argue that she’s a pet abuser and drug pusher. There’s your fucking hot button topics that the Dope goes nuts about. And you fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.

OTOH you are the board whipping girl

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/28 "2015-12-04T17:41:25Z")

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Without taking sides, I note that this Pitting— like other **Stoid** pittings— is kind of superfluous, being that she already gets thoroughly lambasted in every thread she starts.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/29 "2015-12-04T17:50:11Z")

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> [@usedtobe](#):
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> Which ‘others’?  
> That is TWO (that we know of) dogs to come down with seizures - the odds of a single person having 2 such pets is stretching credulity.

This is no comment on Stoid’s situation, but we had/have two dogs with seizures. The first was a beagle with _grand mal_ epilepsy. That was over 30 years ago.

One of our current rescued dachshunds has very occasional _petit mal_ seizures.

So, while it’s not unusual, it’s not astronomically out of the realm of possibility.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/30 "2015-12-04T18:43:40Z")

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**usedtobe** , what is it with you and shitting on people who have lost pets?? This is the second time I’ve seen you do it _this week_.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/31 "2015-12-04T18:53:28Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> **usedtobe** , what is it with you and shitting on people who have lost pets??

He isn’t shitting on them. When people are upset, one way to feel better is to do ass-to-mouth on an epileptic spaniel.

I read it on the Internet.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/32 "2015-12-04T18:59:11Z")

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Well thank you for that mental image, sir.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/33 "2015-12-04T19:01:55Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> **usedtobe** , what is it with you and shitting on people who have lost pets?? This is the second time I’ve seen you do it _this week_.

2 posters 1 cup??

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/34 "2015-12-04T19:03:05Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well thank you for that mental image, sir.

This is why everyone calls him Mr. Sunshine, half Mr. Rogers, half Hannibal Lecter.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/35 "2015-12-04T19:11:26Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> d. And you know that **Stoid** is one of the whipping boys of this message board…

> [@BigT](#):
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> You think that a board whipping boy like **Stoid** has more defenders than detractors…

You ought to know that a whipping boy is someone who gets blamed when others screw up. Someone who simply screws up a lot and is chided again and again for it is not a victim.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/36 "2015-12-04T19:20:10Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> This is no comment on Stoid’s situation, but we had/have two dogs with seizures. The first was a beagle with _grand mal_ epilepsy. That was over 30 years ago.
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> One of our current rescued dachshunds has very occasional _petit mal_ seizures.
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> So, while it’s not unusual, it’s not astronomically out of the realm of possibility.

Yes, absolutely. Epilepsy in dogs is often genetic. It’s especially common in collies, labs & beagles - three of the most common dog breeds in America. If you have a mixed breed dogs, odds are good your dog has at least some of the genetic markers for epilepsy.

A person’s having two dogs who develop this, years apart, is not anything to raise eyebrows.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/37 "2015-12-04T19:35:45Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Yeah, I’m tired of this shit, too. You have no legitimate gripe whatsoever. You’re just annoyed by a thread. And you know that **Stoid** is one of the whipping boys of this message board. So you think you can just twist anything she says and everyone will believe you.
> 
> She gave her friend an anti-anxiety drug because they were having a fucking panic attack. That’s caring about another human being. I know that’s a hard concept for people like you who think the world should revolve around what makes you happy, but it’s absolutely fucking normal behavior.
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> And if you don’t believe her account of events, THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU PITTING HER FOR?
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> If she had any place to lie, it would have been when she lost her fucking case those years ago. Why the fuck let the lawyers on here know she lost? And if she’s delusional, you think she’s so insane that she only imagines her two pets had seizures? Yes, that’s so much more likely than the 2% chance that she’s had two pets with seizure disorders over her lifetime.
> 
> She’s just a know-it-all who had a rude awakening this one time. And, yes, her threads are kinda annoying. But that’s it. That’s her huge crime. Twisting shit to make her into some sort of drug dealer and animal abuser is fucking low.
> 
> And creating a Pit thread because you couldn’t convince people in the real thread? Brilliant move.

Shut up, Big Tard.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/38 "2015-12-04T19:49:43Z")

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Is there still room on the bandwagon that seems to have started rolling and picking up speed here? Because I too think that while **Stoid** is certainly pittable on the basis of her profound, internet-derived certainties and the way she shares them, she dearly loves her dogs, was doing what (in her mind) was the best she possibly could to care for the one that died, and was telling the truth as she sees it in her description of events.

In other words - pit **Stoid** if you want, but this isn’t the way to go about it.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/39 "2015-12-04T20:17:19Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Munchoundsen by proxy?

The winner of the Internet for December 4, 2015 is Bryan Ekers, ladies and gentlemen.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/40 "2015-12-04T20:23:06Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> Shut up, Big Tard.

This seems familiar. Where have I seen it before?

Oh, now I remember.

> [@PlainJain and others: stop this disingenuous shit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plainjain-and-others-stop-this-disingenuous-shit/653967/13):
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> Shut up, **BigTard**.

> [@Caesin is not dairy free, you fuckers!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caesin-is-not-dairy-free-you-fuckers/653119/10):
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> Shut up, **BigTard**

> [@Why Windows 8 is a failure.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-windows-8-is-a-failure/659269/224):
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> Shut up, **BigTard.**

> [@Why Windows 8 is a failure.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-windows-8-is-a-failure/659269/230):
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> Shut up **BigTard** , you’re derailing an otherwise interesting thread.

> [@In which I am reminded of how totally K-Mart sucks](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-am-reminded-of-how-totally-k-mart-sucks/716075/58):
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> Shut up BigTard

> [@Jimmy Kimmel, you suck. (Making kids cry for yuks.)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-kimmel-you-suck-making-kids-cry-for-yuks/673489/41):
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> You forgot to say “Shut up, **BigTard**!”

> [@If you whine about political correctness, you're a bigot](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671/246):
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> Shut up **BigTard**.

> [@The legend of Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-legend-of-zeldar/725866/54):
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> Shut up, **BigTard**.

> [@Lots of tots rot!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lots-of-tots-rot/690053/67):
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> Shut up, **BigTard**.

> [@Hey Polly Prissypants, fuck off back to your side of the property line.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-polly-prissypants-fuck-off-back-to-your-side-of-the-property-line/709626/68):
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> Shut up, BigTard.

> [@MeanOldLady please explain](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meanoldlady-please-explain/650149/30):
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> Shut up, BigTard.

> [@I pit anti-gun pediatricians](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anti-gun-pediatricians/653578/38):
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> And shut up, **BigTard**.

> [@Umm...gosh...no, I don't actually want to suck your cock, but...thanks for asking?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-gosh-no-i-dont-actually-want-to-suck-your-cock-but-thanks-for-asking/663247/168):
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> Shut up, **BigTard**.

> [@Punditfact: a gripe on climate science](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punditfact-a-gripe-on-climate-science/692862/22):
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> Shut up Big Tard.

> [@Stoid, Are You Still Confident that You Know a Lot about Diet and Obesity?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/21):
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> Shut up, **BigTard**

> [@Am I being an intolerant A-hole?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-being-an-intolerant-a-hole/654407/42):
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> Oh, shut the fuck up, BigTard…

> [@I Pit Terr and all the other insolent morons at SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-terr-and-all-the-other-insolent-morons-at-sdmb/666233/45):
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> Strange. \*\*BigTard \*\*must be on vacation. He usually gets his half cents worth in on these kind of threads.

> [@I Pit Terr and all the other insolent morons at SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-terr-and-all-the-other-insolent-morons-at-sdmb/666233/50):
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> Maybe he finally decided to shut up.

> [@Caesin is not dairy free, you fuckers!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caesin-is-not-dairy-free-you-fuckers/653119/1):
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> If something has casein in it, the MAIN FUCKING PROTEIN of milk, it is not in any way, shape, or form dairy free. It is not milk free. It’s not even non-dairy. It fucking contains fucking milk.

> [@BigThanks to BigT!!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/13):
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> I’m starting to understand why some refer to him as **BigTard**.

> [@FUCK! Fucking Facebook.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/133):
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> All together now: Shut up, **BigTard**! 😃

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