# It's Time Again for Stoid! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375 "2015-12-04T03:10:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/101 "2015-12-08T13:50:59Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > All it does is hasten our disintegration into a petty and narrow-minded bunch of middle aged crones who have nothing better to do than search on user-names and throw muck. You make it sound like such a bad thing. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/102 "2015-12-08T15:39:48Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Part of the problem is that some SHOULD see these as isolated incidents but don’t. > > We all have history here, especially those of us who are long-term posters. Chucking stuff up from previous posts, especially if years ago, is disingenuous and does nothing to further the reputation of this board as a well-moderated community. I disagree with your post. Part of drug seeking behavior is repeatedly seeking and taking drugs. But beyond that, your contention that people’s posts should be taken in isolation is ridiculous. The reason we are not allowed socks here is specifically so our community and members will be judged on the whole of their posting history. It works IRL as well. I get it, you like Stoid and will white-knight her. Fine. But don’t expect all of us to go along with your fantasy world. Stoid posted her bed, now she has to lie in it. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/103 "2015-12-08T15:43:19Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Part of the problem is that some SHOULD see these as isolated incidents but don’t. > > We all have history here, especially those of us who are long-term posters. Chucking stuff up from previous posts, especially if years ago, is disingenuous and does nothing to further the reputation of this board as a well-moderated community. > > All it does is hasten our disintegration into a petty and narrow-minded bunch of middle aged crones who have nothing better to do than search on user-names and throw muck. > > FFS I find nothing in your post correct. Well, except for the FFS part. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/104 "2015-12-08T16:40:05Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > Stoid posted her bed, now she has to lie in it. Actually, she posted and private messaged her bed. And she wonders why she has to lie in that bed she created. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/105 "2015-12-08T16:46:29Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > Well, except for the FFS part. Well to be fair that should be appended to end of any post anybody here ever makes 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/106 "2015-12-08T18:19:08Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Actually, she posted and private messaged her bed. And she wonders why she has to lie in that bed she created. And the bed is enormously long, in six different colors, underlined , and with twelve different fonts. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/107 "2015-12-08T19:20:17Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > Part of the problem is that some don’t see these as isolated incidents. Remember the “help Stoid stop the pain” campaign? Link? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/108 "2015-12-08T19:48:23Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > Stoid posted her bed, now she has to lie in it. Eeewwwwww! That is really gross! She should stop taking cat suppositories. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/109 "2015-12-08T19:48:37Z")
I have a few other posts to respond to, but I wanted to get this out of the way before it took on a life of its own: > [@madsircool](#): > > She is a proven liar and plagiarizer. If you want to believe her its on you. You have confused me with someone else. Not only have I never been proven to have plagiarized anything, I have never even been accused of plagiarizing anything.(Who plagiarizes forum posts? _That’s_ weird…) The same for lying. The only accusations of lying I’ve ever seen leveled at me (until this strange thread) have been casual expressions of doubt “That seems really hard to believe…” “I don’t think that’s true” Not accusations of a lie, and certainly nothing that has been pursued and proven. If anything, the Stoid noise around her arises more from my truthfulness than anything else, and for “truthfulness” read frankness. I’m very bad at being secretive, discreet or false…I have massive boundary issues because it requires way more maintenance to do any of those things than to simply be utterly myself. The chips that fall as a result are information, and yes, I take it in. So, in summary: everyone is entitled to hold any opinion of anyone at any time, no matter what those opinions might be. But it is factually untrue to state that “Stoid is a proven liar and plagiarizer.” Thank you for your kind attention to this matter. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/110 "2015-12-08T20:13:01Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > You know what? I was wrong to jump in on this pitting. I made unwarranted assumptions and even if the dog was fictional (which I no longer believe) sympathy costs me nothing. So I’m sorry about your dog, **Stoid**. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it when people have a change of heart and the courage to say so. Last night I was going through my videos and I came upon one I had utterly forgotten about (more like blocked out, since it was only a month ago)…I took it during the last hours of her life at the neurologist, capturing something she was doing because the tech person had mentioned he wanted the neurologist to see it. It’s very sad, but it makes clear that whatever else, my dog had a severe neurological disorder. As far as the likelihood of two dogs with seizure disorders, it’s not that strange, as others have said.BUt in my own situation, my first dog with it had a likely cause. He was a 6 week old puppy I took in to foster after he had been kicked in the head and blinded in one eye as a result. My then-vet (who was by far the greatest vet I’ve ever known, in every way…) was fairly certain that the blow in puppyhood, which was obviously severe, led to the development of seizures when he was about two. He died at five as a result of complications from the drugs he was taking. > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > For the record, I _do not_ think she’s an animal abuser. In all probability, she’s a very nice person. However, I _do_ think she’s delusional. I actually am a nice person, ya know. I never thought of myself that way until the last decade or so, but it turns out I really am. I know, came as a total surprise to me, too. As for delusional? Probably, but so far I’d have to say it’s working for me in the big picture of my real life, so I’m not going to sweat it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/111 "2015-12-08T20:16:20Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > I have a few other posts to respond to, but I wanted to get this out of the way before it took on a life of its own: > > You have confused me with someone else. Not only have I never been proven to have plagiarized anything, I have never even been accused of plagiarizing anything.(Who plagiarizes forum posts? _That’s_ weird…) > > The same for lying. The only accusations of lying I’ve ever seen leveled at me (until this strange thread) have been casual expressions of doubt “That seems really hard to believe…” “I don’t think that’s true” Not accusations of a lie, and certainly nothing that has been pursued and proven. > > If anything, the Stoid noise around her arises more from my truthfulness than anything else, and for “truthfulness” read frankness. I’m very bad at being secretive, discreet or false…I have massive boundary issues because it requires way more maintenance to do any of those things than to simply be utterly myself. The chips that fall as a result are information, and yes, I take it in. > > So, in summary: everyone is entitled to hold any opinion of anyone at any time, no matter what those opinions might be. But it is factually untrue to state that “Stoid is a proven liar and plagiarizer.” > > Thank you for your kind attention to this matter. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9011460](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9011460) In this thread where u plagiarize Bill Bryson? ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/112 "2015-12-08T21:02:11Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9011460](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9011460) > > In this thread where u plagiarize Bill Bryson? You mean the thread showing how some guy replying to her ad had plagiarised Bryson in his reply? ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/113 "2015-12-08T21:21:19Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > According to her own words, she paid a guy to do yardwork using her prescription meds and sees no problem with it, and she gave people valium prescribed for a dog because they were feeling down. Trading drugs for money or services is dealing drugs I’m glad you recognize the importance of “According to her own words”, you just didn’t get them right: [QUOTE=Stoid] I try to arrange a barter with him for some work, that became weirdly awkward, he was supposed to finish fixing the gate he’d worked on, never showed. Contacted me randomly over the next few months to borrow $2 for laundry, $1.50 for the bus, a couple of Xanax cuz his scrip ran out. All fine. [/QUOTE] In other words… he began to do some work. He didn’t finish the work. Then he came by to borrow Xanax to be replaced when he had his own prescription refilled. Work before Xanax. Work stopped before Xanax. Xanax was loaned, to be replaced. That is not “paying a guy to do yard work using her prescription meds”. Therefore I have never dealt drugs, by any stretched definition. > [@](#): > > and giving people drugs that they weren’t prescribed is abuse by the basic definition of the terms. Not so much, at least not by any definitions I could find: (just google “drug abuse” and you will hit all these in the first ten or so… i bunched these so as not to have them confused with my quoting dopers…) The closes thing I could find is bolded down a few quotes. > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Drug abuse is the recurrent use of illegal drugs, or the misuse of prescription or over-the-counter drugs with negative consequences. These consequences may involve > > > > Problems at work, school, home or in interpersonal relationships > > Problems with the law > > Physical risks that come with using drugs in dangerous situations > > > [@](#): > > > > In 2013, APA updated the DSM, replacing the categories of substance abuse and substance dependence with a single category: substance use disorder. The symptoms associated with a substance use disorder fall into four major groupings: impaired control, social impairment, risky use, and pharmacological criteria (i.e., tolerance and withdrawal). > > > > The new DSM describes a problematic pattern of use of an intoxicating substance leading to clinically significant impairment or distress, as manifested by at least two of the following, occurring within a 12-month period: > > > > The substance is often taken in larger amounts or over a longer period than was intended. > > There is a persistent desire or unsuccessful effort to cut down or control use of the substance. > > A great deal of time is spent in activities necessary to obtain the substance, use the substance, or recover from its effects. > > Craving, or a strong desire or urge to use the substance. > > Recurrent use of the substance resulting in a failure to fulfill major role obligations at work, school, or home. > > Continued use of the substance despite having persistent or recurrent social or interpersonal problems caused or exacerbated by the effects of its use. > > Important social, occupational, or recreational activities are given up or reduced because of use of the substance. > > Recurrent use of the substance in situations in which it is physically hazardous. > > Use of the substance is continued despite knowledge of having a persistent or recurrent physical or psychological problem that is likely to have been caused or exacerbated by the substance > > > [@](#): > > > > Drug abuse, also called substance abuse or chemical abuse, is a disorder that is characterized by a destructive pattern of using a substance that leads to significant problems or distress. Teens are increasingly engaging in prescription drug abuse, particularly narcotics (which are prescribed to relieve severe pain), and stimulant medications, which treat conditions like attention deficit disorder and narcolepsy. > > > [@](#): > > > > Drug abuse is the use of illegal drugs, or the misuse of prescription or over-the-counter drugs for at least a year with negative consequences. > > > [@](#): > > > > Abuse (drug, alcohol, chemical, substance or psychoactive substance) > > > > Definition > > > > A group of terms in wide use but of varying meaning. In DSM-IV, ‘psychoactive substance abuse’ is defined as a ‘maladaptive pattern of use indicated by … continued use despite knowledge of having a persistent or recurrent social, occupational, psychological or physical problem that is caused or exacerbated by the use [or by] recurrent use in situations in which it is physically hazardous’. It is a residual category, with dependence taking precendence when applicable. **The term ‘abuse’ is sometimes used disapprovingly to refer to any use at all, particularly of illicit drugs.** Because of its ambiguity, the term is not used in ICD-10 (except in the case of non-dependence-producing substances); harmful use and hazardous use are the equivalent terms in WHO usage, although they usually relate only to effects on health and not to social consequences.\*\* In other contexts, abuse has referred to non-medical or unsanctioned patterns of use, irrespective of consequences.\*\* Thus the definition published in 1969 by the WHO Expert Committee on Drug Dependence was ‘persistent or sporadic excessive drug use inconsistent with or unrelated to acceptable medical practice’. > > > > Psychoactive substance misuse > > > > Use of a substance for a purpose not consistent with legal or medical guidelines, as in the non-medical use of prescription medications. The term is preferred by some to abuse in the belief that it is less judgemental. > > > [@](#): > > > > The term substance in the DSM-IV not only includes psychoactive chemicals of abuse but also medications and toxins with psychoactive effects and includes the following 11 classes of chemicals: “alcohol, amphetamine or similarly acting sympathomimetics; cannabis; cocaine; hallucinogens; inhalants; nicotine; opioids; phencyclidine or similarly acting arylcyclohexylamines; sedatives, hypnotics, and anxiolytics”. > > > > Using the DSM-IV criteria for substance abuse but applying it to the case where the substance is one of the illicit drugs described above, the diagnosis of drug abuse is made when one or more of the following occurs over a year: > > > > Recurrent drug use resulting in failure to fulfill major role obligations at work, school, or home (e.g., repeated absences or poor work performance related to substance use; substance-related absences, suspensions or expulsions from school; or neglect of children or household) > > Recurrent drug use in situations in which it is physically dangerous (e.g., driving a car or truck or train, operating machinery e.g. in a factory, while under the influence of substance) > > Having drug-related legal problems (e.g., arrests for substance-related fights in which injury occur). > > Continuing to use a drug despite having persistent or recurrent social or interpersonal problems caused or worsened by the effects of the drug (e.g. interpersonal difficulties leading to career problems including loss of job). > [@Pantastic](#): > > When part of what you say is blatantly false, in brings into question everything else that you’ve said - Wise words indeed. Ahem. > [@Pantastic](#): > > I can’t really muster much sympathy for her in this case because _ **she was so nasty to the vet** _ Nasty? Let’s look to my own words again, since of course they are the only thing you have to work with as you inform others of the facts _they_ are misstating: > [@](#): > > But it was a damn sight better than my vet, who flatly refused to provide me with the valium. Her reasoning was vague, the only thing she would say was that it was a “controlled substance”. Yes, and…? You’re an animal doctor with a license, right? You have a DEA number, right? You know that this is the standard protocol for cluster seizures, right? \*(the last questions part was strictly rhetorical, for the post, not words I spoke to my vet.) \* > > She and I went back and forth about this, and she never gave me a straight, logically, meaningful answer about her unwillingness to give me the valium, apart from the “controlled substance”-ness. She also didn’t direct me to an alternative source, nor did she give me any other actions or solutions for the issue of cluster seizures hitting at midnight, and she is 100% aware of the fact that I am extremely low-income, emergency vet visits are not something I am in any position to make a regular part of my budget. > [@](#): > > Well, Zusje had a terrible cluster episode, and I immediately started assembling every resource I could find to prove to my vet that she needed to provide the valium- looking up veterinary colleges, scholarly papers, etc. - all of which said exactly what I knew they said: valium up the butt. Standard. I also got to work on a letter to my vet, containing every possible bit of information she could want about me and everything she needed to run her own background check, so she could see that if her fear was that I was drug-seeking, well, that fear was extremely misplaced. > > But 48 hours after the big episode, while I was marshaling my arguments, Zusje went into status epilepticus. I didn’t know how long she’d already been seizing when I found her, it took 45 minutes to get her to the emergency vet, and the next two days were a nightmare that ended in my euthanizing her. > [@](#): > > I was definitely going to bail if I couldn’t get through to her, but Zu got to dyin’ before I could make my last big pitch. (by the way, that last was the post directly before your response to me in that thread) > [@](#): > > Hmmm. Something to ponder. I have written a letter to her that I plan to give to her with my first payment against what I owe her for her contributions to Zusje’s death spiral. It’s very carefully composed, but boiled down it says: “Your paranoia was irresponsible and killed my dog. Please don’t let her death be completely wasted, and don’t do that to anyone else.” > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Penfeather View Post > > Stoid, do you not realise that in the real world showing your vet a bunch of stuff you just Googled won’t automatically make her do what you want? What it does is make you look like more of a desperate drug-seeker, not less. > > Well, I didn’t do that. I never got the chance, because my dog died. So, according to my own words, absolutely nothing indicates that I was ever “nasty” to my vet. I had planned to present her with my arguments, never got the chance. I have written a letter I have yet to give her. At no time was I ever “nasty” to my vet. So there’s that. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/114 "2015-12-08T21:39:57Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > You have confused me with someone else. Not only have I never been proven to have plagiarized anything, I have never even been accused of plagiarizing anything.(Who plagiarizes forum posts? _That’s_ weird…) Can we assume that you now recognize that you have been accused of plagiarism? > [@](#): > > The same for lying. The only accusations of lying I’ve ever seen leveled at me (until this strange thread) have been casual expressions of doubt “That seems really hard to believe…” “I don’t think that’s true” Not accusations of a lie, and certainly nothing that has been pursued and proven. I suspect this _is_ the same as the plagiarism. You have certainly been accused of plagiarism, as has been seen. So the “I have never even been accused” part is clearly false. Likewise with the “I have never been accused of lying”. This is also false - I have accused you, truthfully, of lying. IIRC your lies, the one I pointed out, came in one of the Zimmerman-Martin threads, where you lied about how you were not speculating. You also lied, more egregiously but by omission, in one of your threads about your lawsuit. Again IIRC, you left out a paragraph that disproved one or more of the claims of your lawsuit. I believe **treis** pointed it out, and in any case, since the appeals court dismissed every one of your claims, I think it can be taken as shown that you were being other than truthful in that case as well. Whether or not it is fair to call what you have done “lying” is up for discussion. I have no doubt that you actually believe what you say when you say it, no matter who badly it conflicts with reality, But you are someone who deals with reality by refusing to acknowledge its existence, when it is inconvenient to one or another of your delusions. I won’t bother with cites, until we see how and if you respond to the bit about plagiarism. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/115 "2015-12-08T21:53:25Z")
You seem like a smart enough lady so why is it that you don’t see that these mile long cut’pastes “proving” you’re right and casual admission of prescription pill sharing make you look like a pill poppin’ nutter? ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/116 "2015-12-08T21:53:31Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > In other words… he began to do some work. He didn’t finish the work. Then he came by to borrow Xanax to be replaced when he had his own prescription refilled. Work before Xanax. Work stopped before Xanax. Xanax was loaned, to be replaced. So you were going to pay him something to do yard work, he hadn’t done it, but he came by wanting to borrow money and acquire pills from you, but the pills would definitely not have gone his way if he had done the work? Sure, technically you’re not a drug dealer, if we don’t look too deeply at what happened and avoid using our brains to connect the dots, so you can have that one. But your giving him Xanax that was prescribed for someone else is definitely prescription drug abuse, and calling it ‘loaning’ implies quite a bit about how you handle those sorts of things. > [@](#): > > Not so much, at least not by any definitions I could find: (just google “drug abuse” and you will hit all these in the first ten or so… i bunched these so as not to have them confused with my quoting dopers…) Google search for prescription drug abuse turned up: [Prescription Drug Misuse: MedlinePlus](https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/prescriptiondrugabuse.html) You’re trying to use the definition for a DSM-IV diagnosis, which your quotes reference, but that’s not the common definition. > [@](#): > > So, according to my own words, absolutely nothing indicates that I was ever “nasty” to my vet. I had planned to present her with my arguments, never got the chance. I have written a letter I have yet to give her. At no time was I ever “nasty” to my vet. Your thread title accused the vet of killing your dog, you accused her of behaving unethically, and said various other lengthy and unkind things about her that it’s not worth the effort to go back and reread then quote. Yes, you were nasty to the vet. You did it behind her back, but that doesn’t change that you made rather serious and unfair accusations against her, which is what I used the word ‘nasty’ as shorthand for. I’m sure you can post half a dozen quotes defining nasty in a different way then I used the word, though. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/117 "2015-12-08T21:55:07Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > It also isn’t a place for internet bullying either, yet here you are… again. Internet bullying, you say? TPTB had better shut down the BBQ Pit, then. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/118 "2015-12-08T23:32:33Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > Link? I tried but the site has been taken down. But basically (IIRC) Stoid was dealing with some medical issue (toothache?) and linked to a webpage she created asking for money to help… oh, and if you have any spare Vicodin please send it along. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/119 "2015-12-09T00:00:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Internet bullying, you say? TPTB had better shut down the BBQ Pit, then. I don’t know, would that make you a nicer person? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375/120 "2015-12-09T00:11:02Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > I tried but the site has been taken down. But basically (IIRC) Stoid was dealing with some medical issue (toothache?) and linked to a webpage she created asking for money to help… oh, and if you have any spare Vicodin please send it along. IIRC, she didn’t purposely link it here. Bizarrely (and coincidentally to this current issue) she was posting puppy pictures and she just slapped them up on that address’ server. Someone backspaced her link to discover the “campaign”’ homepage. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-for-stoid/739375.md?page=7)