# It's time (again) to officially Pit Joe Arpaio and the Maricopa County prison program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 15, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329 "2011-12-15T19:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/61 "2012-04-23T02:49:36Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Question – how secure would it be to have inmates living in tents outside? I would think you’d want them locked up in the jail itself? I know this was posted a while ago, but as an Arizona resident it’s my understanding that tent city is mostly used to house DUI convicts and other non-violent offenders with relatively short sentences. It’s like ultra minimum security prison. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/62 "2013-05-25T10:44:45Z")
Haven’t much from or about ol’ Joe… turns out he’s been in court quite a bit: [ > [@](#): > > A federal judge has ruled that the office of America’s self-proclaimed toughest sheriff systematically singled out Latinos in its trademark immigration patrols, marking the first finding by a court that the agency racially profiles people. > > The decision by U.S. District Judge Murray Snow in Phoenix backs up years of allegations from Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s critics who say his officers violate the constitutional rights of Latinos in relying on race in their immigration enforcement. ]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_ARIZONA\_SHERIFF\_RACIAL\_PROFILING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-05-25-04-25-27](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ARIZONA_SHERIFF_RACIAL_PROFILING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-05-25-04-25-27)) I thought we knew that already, but it’s always good to have another actual authority figure weigh in on the issue. And it looks like this one might weigh pretty heavily: > [@](#): > > Snow, whose ruling Friday came more than eight months after a seven-day, non-jury trial, also ruled Arpaio’s deputies unreasonably prolonged the detentions of people who were pulled over. > > **The ruling marks a thorough repudiation of the immigration patrols that made Arpaio a national political figure, and it represents a victory for those who pushed the lawsuit.** Big grats to lead lawyer for the plaintiffs Stanley Young for getting it right. Of course, now we have to wait and see if Joe and his Deps actually conform to the court’s ruling; I suspect this thread will live at once more. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/63 "2013-05-25T12:58:27Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Question – how secure would it be to have inmates living in tents outside? I would think you’d want them locked up in the jail itself? It’s secure enough for what’s suppose to be a jail. I never had a problem with the tents being used provided that prisoners have access to plenty of water, shade and did not have any medical conditions exacerbated by the heat. I do have a serious problem with ignoring sexual crimes, targeting people because they’re brown, detaining people for too long after police stops, etc., etc. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/64 "2013-05-25T17:19:54Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > The tragedy is that the next time we discuss this issue in the abstract we’re going to have to pretend that the anti-immigrant people have some sort of worthy-of-consideration and morally sound position when it’s obvious that shit like this is exactly what they want. There are people who are opposed to immigration without being racist. In fact, most people are only OK with immigration because it’s already very restricted in western countries. FTR, I find the USA to be significantly more tolerant of immigration than European countries. For instance, not much effort seems to be made to track down illegal immigrants and their employers. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/65 "2013-05-25T17:28:37Z")
I thought he had the right idea until I found out how he treats pregnant inmates. Sorry, but no matter what she may have done, it’s not the baby’s fault, and no pregnant woman deserves to be given inadequate food and denied basic medical care. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/66 "2013-05-25T17:31:52Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > Ah Diddums, touch a raw nerve did I ? > > […] > > Lowlife little bladders of wet wind like yourself always get brave and mouthy hiding behind the protection of the anonymity of the internet. > > In fact creepy, greasy little kiddy fiddlers like yourself actually get off on talking tough to people in cyberspace, did you practice a little bit of self abuse on yourself after you’d posted ? > > You’re a cunt. > . I’ve rarely seen posts as bad as this one, even in the Pit. I also wonder how many people, like me, immediately thought “did you look at yourself in a mirror?” when reading this. ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/67 "2013-05-25T17:37:32Z")
Its a zombie post. It was delt with 2 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/68 "2013-05-25T17:39:39Z")
> [@April\_R](#): > > Its a zombie post. It was delt with 2 years ago. Yep, I just noticed it. Sorry for that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/69 "2013-05-25T20:39:17Z")
Still, if it bites your post, we’ll have to shoot it in the header. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/70 "2015-07-11T00:39:29Z")
Resurrecting this zombie because we don’t really have an omnibus thread for Sheriff Joe and because this is directly pertinent to my OP: [Sheriff loses bid to get judge removed from profiling case: > [@](#): > > In a 40-page ruling issued late Friday afternoon, Snow says the recusal motion by Arpaio’s attorneys “is legally insufficient and untimely.” ]([http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2c04232fadd14f70ba8ee70fb974b966/sheriff-loses-bid-get-judge-removed-profiling-case](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2c04232fadd14f70ba8ee70fb974b966/sheriff-loses-bid-get-judge-removed-profiling-case)) Good. ---
**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/71 "2015-07-14T03:33:34Z")
Arpaio ‘enforces the law,’ but when his ox is gored, he ignores court orders. Let’s play a game of who’s worse, him or his new bff Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/72 "2015-07-14T05:02:10Z")
Definitely Arpaio. He has actual power to ruin people’s lives. Trump is just another rich blowhard. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/73 "2015-07-15T04:24:01Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I thought he had the right idea until I found out how he treats pregnant inmates. Sorry, but no matter what she may have done, it’s not the baby’s fault, and no pregnant woman deserves to be given inadequate food and denied basic medical care. > > :mad: I know that’s an old post, but I wouldn’t mind knowing more about this? It’s an aspect of ol’ Joe I hadn’t heard about yet, and what the hell, I haven’t hit my weekly RO quota. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/74 "2015-07-15T15:51:01Z")
The possible results of a Google search for **Arpiao + pregnant** are too frightening for me to try. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/75 "2015-07-15T15:55:52Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > The possible results of a Google search for **Arpiao + pregnant** are too frightening for me to try. Just stories about the pregnant woman suing the county. Images are of Arpaio’s face. _shudder_ This appears to be the lone exception to Rule 34. Thank God. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/76 "2015-07-15T18:00:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > This appears to be the lone exception to Rule 34. > Thank God. Now we need a smilie with a light bulb over its head. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/77 "2015-07-15T20:49:47Z")
['America’s Toughest Sheriff’ Spends Nearly a Year Investigating a Man Who Allegedly Wanted to Have Sex With a Horse.](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/07/sheriff-joe-arpaio-gets-tough-on-horse-sex.html) I guess that does make some sense, the law interfering to stop man-on-horse action . . . this is Arizona, not Texas! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/78 "2015-07-15T20:53:11Z")
[DOJ lawsuit settled.](http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2015/07/15/county-settle-arpaio-doj-lawsuit-abrk/30195769/) > [@](#): > > The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors unanimously voted to settle a lingering lawsuit the U.S. Department of Justice brought against the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office in the supervisors’ meeting on Wednesday. > > The lawsuit filed in 2012 alleged the Sheriff’s Office engaged in discriminatory police practices, unfairly targeted Latinos during traffic stops and worksite raids, did not provide adequate services to inmates with limited English proficiency and that the agency retaliated against the sheriff’s critics. > > The settlement approved Wednesday morning comes with Justice Department oversight and will include additional training and policy changes but does no include monetary damages. > > “The Sheriff’s Office put us in a situation we should never have been in,” Supervisor Steve Gallardo said, explaining the board’s decision to approve a settlement. > > The case had been slated to go to trial next month. ☹ Oh, what might have been! The spectacle! The fights on the Interwebz! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/79 "2015-07-15T20:59:13Z")
This asswipe (Arpaio) is 83, can’t we collectively conjure up an Alzheimer’s curse to fall upon this dingleberry and end his reign? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329/80 "2015-07-15T21:22:32Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Yes, so while we’re at it, let’s consign to the fiery furnace at least a plurality of the citizens of that county who elected and re-elected this tool, because presumably they like what he does. Yes, and here we often castigate Southerners for being racists, but it’s clear at least 51% of the voters in Maricopa County are bigots and racists. And his "tough on crime’ words arent working since his county is among the worst. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-again-to-officially-pit-joe-arpaio-and-the-maricopa-county-prison-program/606329.md?page=5)