# It's time for a Patty Griffin appreciation thread

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 13, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879 "2006-01-13T21:17:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/1 "2006-01-13T21:17:13Z")

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_1000 Kisses_ is one of my all-time favorite albums. If I play it for someone for the first time, I inevitably sound like a broken record…“Ok, this next one is my FAVORITE”…every single song.

Moses, Every Little Bit, Mad Mission, Poor Man’s House, Tony, One Big Love…all of them are high on my personal list.

I just downloaded her latest album _Impossible Dreams_, but I haven’t had a chance to listen to it yet, as I’m marinating myself in her old stuff first.

Patty’s ability to write songs that beautifully extract the essence of “The Common Man/Woman” is unearthly. She simply personafies folk music.

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/2 "2006-01-13T21:26:49Z")

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I hope you have _Living with Ghosts_, **honeydewgrrl**. An absolutely perfect album. There are also live acoustic versions of _Mary_, _Let Him Fly_ and _Every Little Bit_ floating around out there that are even better than the studio cuts. Happy hunting.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/3 "2006-01-13T21:33:54Z")

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> [@koeeoaddi](#):
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> I hope you have _Living with Ghosts_, **honeydewgrrl**. An absolutely perfect album. There are also live acoustic versions of _Mary_, _Let Him Fly_ and _Every Little Bit_ floating around out there that are even better than the studio cuts. Happy hunting.

I do indeed have _Living with Ghosts_. I have everything except the live album _A Kiss In Time_ as of about an hour ago (yay iTunes!). What the hell…I’m just going to grab that one too. The comments on the iTunes site said the production quality wasn’t so great, though it was a great performance, so I had hesitated spending $40 in 5 minutes, as opposed to $30. I have a feeling that’s the album where the live versions you mention came from.

This is the second time I’ve purchased the first 3 albums, as I’ve lost them to various ex girlfriends over the years. Grumble.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/4 "2006-01-13T21:40:55Z")

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Is that the woman from Family Guy?

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/5 "2006-01-13T21:52:11Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> Is that the woman from Family Guy?

Um…no. That would be the character, Meg Griffin, I believe.

[This](http://www.pattygriffin.com/index.php) is Patty Griffin.

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**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/6 "2006-01-13T21:53:46Z")

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Patty Griffin is one of my ultimate favorite artists. She is incredible. I own all her work except for A Kiss In Time, and I’ve probably listened to and internalized her music more than I’ve listened to any other artist’s.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/7 "2006-01-13T22:07:25Z")

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I’ve been lucky enough to see her twice live. First time was at a local bar at a CD release/Best Buy industry party for “Flaming Red”. I had never heard her before and really dug her acoustic numbers. I got “FR” for free and went out and bought “Living with Ghosts” the next day. Her voice is so powerful on that album that I forget that it’s just her and a guitar and that’s it.

After “Flaming Red”, she recorded an album called “Silver Bell”. It’s pretty much in the same vein as “FR”, but it never got released officially. Some of the tracks have made it on to her more recent albums in the same form like “Mother of God” and “Top of the World” (which was covered by the Dixie Chicks as well as her song “Let Him Fly”). My email is in my profile if you wanna know more about Silver Bell.

The second time I saw her was at a guitar pull. She was on stage with Dar Williams, Mary-Chapin Carpenter, and Shawn Colvin. Which was just “WOW”. She’s a great stand out artist and has an Emmylou character when she does back-up.

One other great thing about her music is that it’s very accessible to play on the guitar. “Moses” is pretty much just the three chords D A G capoed at the second fret. (Dsus2 in there too, but that’s just a pull-off).

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/8 "2006-01-13T22:16:41Z")

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My favorite singer/songwriter! So now you all are my favorite posters, by association.

I’ve seen her perform a few times. It’s a mixed feeling as time goes on; every time she plays in the Boston area, the venue gets bigger which is good for her, but there is less intimacy.

I have all her CDs to date, and I agree that _“1000 Kisses”_ is where she really hit her stride, but the nice thing is that each CD has a different feel, and brings out different emotions.

I wouldn’t worry about the production in _“A Kiss in Time”_; whatever is lacking is more than made up for by the excitement of the audience. I saw her perform at the Orpheum last spring, and she structured her concert to deliberately leave out those songs. It would have been nice to hear some of them, but we got to hear a lot of new music. She certainly isn’t standing still.

Incidentally, there are some unreleased CDs out there; _“Silver Bell”_ and _“Love From My Lips”_ (up to volume 4, I believe). If anyone gets ahold of them, I’d love a copy. For the moderators who are concerned about copyright violations, trading unreleased CDs is endorsed and encouraged on [her website](http://www.pattygriffin.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=trade), but I haven’t had much luck getting anyone to make me copies to date. Incidentally, if you go to that site you can hear her sing “Moon River”, which she performed when I last saw her.

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/9 "2006-01-13T22:22:17Z")

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Forgot to add that I live in Seattle. _Strange how hard it rains now, rows and rows of big dark clouds_. Today is the 26th day in a row, in fact. That song has been playing in my head for weeks. I should go throw the CD on and listen to the real thing. Couldn’t hurt, maybe the sky’ll clear.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/10 "2006-01-14T00:59:02Z")

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I saw her a few years ago at the Variety Playhouse here in Atlanta, in which there really isn’t a bad seat in the house. Great little venue. It was while she was touring for _1000 Kisses_ and it was probably the best performance I’ve ever attended, by any artist. You could just feel that the audience was sucking it all in, leaning into every note with anticipation and relish. She even commented on the energy and rapt attention of the crowd, and how much she appreciated it.

I believe that her cover of Moon River is on the soundtrack for _Elizabethtown_. Also, according to iTunes, she has a song on a compilation album, “Dear Old Friend” on _13 Ways To Live_. And she apparently joins Emily Gilkyson on her album _Lost and Found_.

I love the Dixie Chicks, and while I admit that I was introduced to Patty’s music through their and others’ covers (Martina McBride’s “Goodbye”, for example), my appetite for her own performances of her own music quickly became consuming.

Plynck and I seem to have the same approach, as I immediately have an affinity for any musician who either covers Patty’s music, or cites her as a primary influence.

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**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/11 "2006-01-14T01:12:23Z")

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By the way, y’all, there’s a great Patty Griffin forum [here](http://www.forum.pattynet.net).

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**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/12 "2006-01-14T01:14:13Z")

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P.S. Drop me an email, Plynck.

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**Author:** ![Whammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Whammo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whammo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/13 "2006-01-14T03:55:53Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> Is that the woman from Family Guy?

YEAH… I clicked cause I was thinking Meg Griffin too… LOL…  
Im sure thats better then some old washed up singer type… heh

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**Author:** ![Whammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Whammo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whammo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/14 "2006-01-14T03:57:00Z")

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> [@Whammo](#):
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> YEAH… I clicked cause I was thinking Meg Griffin too… LOL…  
> Im sure thats better then some old washed up singer type… heh

_cough_ …was that my OUTSIDE voice?

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/15 "2006-01-14T05:14:54Z")

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Thankfully, the world (and apparently this thread) is big enough for both Patty Griffin and Meg Griffin…

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/16 "2006-01-14T15:58:31Z")

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> [@Lama Pacos](#):
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> P.S. Drop me an email, Plynck.

If only I knew where to send it… Well, it went out psychically, anyway. My address is listed in my profile if you’d prefer.

> [@Whammo](#):
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> Im sure thats better then some old washed up singer type… heh

Oooh, wrong thread for this, my friend. I don’t know about the others here, but old and washed up refers more to me than to Patty Griffin.

But now we know the answer to the age-old question:

“What is the sound of one voice laughing?” 😃

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**Author:** ![Whammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Whammo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whammo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/17 "2006-01-15T03:47:18Z")

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I swear I didnt laugh more then a quarter second and thats only cause I dont know a patti griffin song. But im sure they all kick ass.

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**Author:** ![brianmelendez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@brianmelendez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianmelendez)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-for-a-patty-griffin-appreciation-thread/339879/18 "2006-01-15T03:51:55Z")

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I liked “Kite Song” so much that I used the lyrics in my holiday cards.
