# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 154
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3062 "2012-02-15T00:26:14Z")
To everyone who still keeps responding to _Starving Artist_ in this thread: Thank you, thank you, thank you. The quality of threads in GQ, GD, Elections and the rest of the Pit has just been that little bit better these past few weeks. I never knew the absence of just one paleoconservative cretin could make such a delightful difference. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3063 "2012-02-15T01:05:36Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > That’s what Sandusky said to McQueary. If that’s where we’re headed now, go back to “bitch”. ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3064 "2012-02-15T01:22:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If that’s where we’re headed now, go back to “bitch”. Oh, fiiinnne, I’ll do neither. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3065 "2012-02-15T02:19:45Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > > [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > > > Now, nobody can surpass me in my loathing of **Starving for Adolescents**. . . > > Well, I’d at least like to have the opportunity to try. Stick around. His next post will probably give you a good reason to up your loathing level. You might just win this one, yet! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3066 "2012-02-15T07:56:34Z")
Note to Hysterical Nabobs: It seems your mentor, role model and soulmate, Nancy Grace, is at it again. With absolutely no evidence whatsoever and jumping to conclusions based solely on what she perceives as appearances, she has determined that Whitney Houston was murdered. To wit: > [@](#): > > “I’d like to know who was around her, who, if anyone gave her drugs, following alcohol and drugs, and who let her slip, or pushed her, underneath that water?” Grace responded. “Apparently no signs of force or trauma to the body. Who let Whitney Houston go under her water?” [Link](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/02/14/nancy-grace-on-cnn-who-pushed-whitney-houston-underwater/) Just thought you might like to see what you look like to people who value _facts_. More later. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3067 "2012-02-15T08:11:16Z")
What the hell does Whitney Houston have to do with the Sandusky case? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3068 "2012-02-15T08:14:45Z")
Nancy Grace, blessings and peace be upon her name. Do try and keep up. Though I admit its not easy with an intellectual dynamo like **Starkers**. Boy, the brilliant insights just slough off of him like skin off a leper! ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3069 "2012-02-15T08:19:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Just thought you might like to see what you look like to people who value _facts_. > > More later. Would you agree to the fact that McQueary’s report to Joe Paterno would have marked at least the second time that Paterno had heard of Sandusky showering with a kid in Joe’s locker room? ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3070 "2012-02-15T08:27:59Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > What the hell does Whitney Houston have to do with the Sandusky case? Sandusky’s favorite song was _I Will Always Loofah You_. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3071 "2012-02-15T08:42:29Z")
Release the hounds. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3072 "2012-02-15T11:04:49Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > Stick around. His next post will probably give you a good reason to up your loathing level. You might just win this one, yet! Wow. Prescient or what? ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3073 "2012-02-15T12:48:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Release the hounds. You’ll release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouths, and when they bark they shoot bees at you? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3074 "2012-02-15T14:11:02Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It seems your mentor, role model and soulmate, Nancy Grace, is at it again. She’s having another go at _Dancing With the Stars_? ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3075 "2012-02-15T14:13:35Z")
Does anyone in this thread - other than **SA** of course - ever actually listen to or follow Nancy Grace in any way, shape or form? I’ve never heard of her before this thread, never cared to even read a wikipedia article about her, let alone anything else, and yet her name has come up more often than Paterno’s in this thread. I think **SA** has a crush on her, and just can’t help saying her name at every opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3076 "2012-02-15T14:39:22Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > Does anyone in this thread - other than **SA** of course - ever actually listen to or follow Nancy Grace in any way, shape or form? I’ve never heard of her before this thread, never cared to even read a wikipedia article about her, let alone anything else, and yet her name has come up more often than Paterno’s in this thread. Same here. I’ve never encountered her anywhere before now. I also was a big JoePa fan before this blew up so I hardly count as part of the ravening mob out for blood. > [@](#): > > I think **SA** has a crush on her, and just can’t help saying her name at every opportunity. Worse - he thinks just saying her name constitutes an actual argument. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3077 "2012-02-15T14:40:34Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > Does anyone in this thread - other than **SA** of course - ever actually listen to or follow Nancy Grace in any way, shape or form? I’ve never heard of her before this thread, never cared to even read a wikipedia article about her, let alone anything else, and yet her name has come up more often than Paterno’s in this thread. > > I think **SA** has a crush on her, and just can’t help saying her name at every opportunity. If anyone cares to make a search, I am confident you will find that the general opinion of members of this board (at least those who have seen her TV show) is that Nancy Grace is a first-class douchebag and a general embarassment in regard to coherent discussion of legal issues. Totally unlike the esteemed Mr. **Artist** , in other words. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3078 "2012-02-15T14:42:36Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > Does anyone in this thread - other than **SA** of course - ever actually listen to or follow Nancy Grace in any way, shape or form? I’ve never heard of her before this thread, never cared to even read a wikipedia article about her, let alone anything else, and yet her name has come up more often than Paterno’s in this thread. > > I think **SA** has a crush on her, and just can’t help saying her name at every opportunity. Never heard of her before this thread and fail to understand how even someone as ‘special’ as Starving Asshat thinks her existence has any bearing on this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3079 "2012-02-15T14:52:39Z")
Nancy gets Pitted almost as much as Starving Artist. FYI, the comparison is used because she has a history of declaring people guilty on air before trial, or even before charges. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3080 "2012-02-15T14:55:12Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > Never heard of her before this thread and fail to understand how even someone as ‘special’ as Starving Asshat thinks her existence has any bearing on this thread. It’s all an attempt to change the focus of the thread. First we’re all Nancy Grace, then he tries to change the subject to the popularity of **Huerta88** , then it’s comments about all the support he has outside this thread–you know, all the private messages, emails, greeting cards, ticker-tape parades, and shout-outs from the floor of Congress. Apparently his imagination is limited, as he’s already circled around to Grace again. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3081 "2012-02-15T14:56:15Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > I think **SA** has a crush on her. . . Gaah, first mental images of Sandusky and that kid, and now this. . . I’m off to drink myself into a stupor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=153) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=155)