# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3162 "2012-02-17T04:27:38Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Oops, dinner’s ready! More later.

You know what, quit posting shit like this. If you’re ready to go out the door, or do something, just don’t post. It’s annoying as all get out. Either post when you have time, or shut the fuck up. This isn’t a chat room.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3163 "2012-02-17T04:35:46Z")

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Gotta fuck. BRB

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3164 "2012-02-17T04:48:06Z")

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Tell ya what, **Guin** , you quit posting lies about what I’ve said or think or believe, and get childish posters like **Huerta** to stop accusing me of running away when I don’t answer in what they deem to be an adequate amount of time, and in return I’ll stop making what ought to be my utterly benign stepping-away-from-the-thread posts.

Otherwise, and given the way you lie about me and insult me and attempt to order me around I can’t imagine why you think I’d do anything you ask (or more accurately - _demand_! It is to laugh).

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3165 "2012-02-17T04:49:59Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Tell ya what, **Guin** , you quit posting lies about what I’ve said or think or believe, and get childish posters like **Huerta** to stop accusing me of running away when I don’t answer in what they deem to be an adequate amount of time, and in return I’ll stop making what ought to be my utterly benign stepping-away-from-the-thread posts.
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> Otherwise, and given the way you lie about me and insult me and attempt to order me around I can’t imagine why you think I’d do anything you ask (or more accurately - _demand_! It is to laugh).

Lies? Last time I checked, I directly quoted you. Unless you’re accusing yourself of lying.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3166 "2012-02-17T04:51:52Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> You know what, quit posting shit like this. If you’re ready to go out the door, or do something, just don’t post. It’s annoying as all get out. Either post when you have time, or shut the fuck up. This isn’t a chat room.

It annoys you because it is obviously Starving Pederast’s little euphemism for “I have to go rape a little boy!”.

“I have to go Christmas Shopping”, “I have to go cook chicken and dumplings”,“I’m running down to the 711 to get some chocolate covered cherries”, " Dinner’s ready!"

We ALL know what he really means. What a sick motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3167 "2012-02-17T04:59:56Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Lies? Last time I checked, I directly quoted you. Unless you’re accusing yourself of lying.

Nope, let me refresh your memory (with my proper responses included):

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> People like **Starving Artist** are the ones who will say to their kids, “so and so wouldn’t do that! Are you sure? Do you really want to hurt them?”

Nope, I’m not like that and I’ve said absolutely nothing to make a rational person make such a claim, so…

Winning!

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> (Oh, he’ll deny it all he wants, the pussy little son of a bitch)

Nope, not little and not a pussy. I’ll grant YMMV on the “son of a bitch” part. So…

Winning!  
Winning!

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3168 "2012-02-17T05:01:17Z")

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> [@Stelios](#):
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> Christ, this thread is boring. Given the pathetic and tortured lengths he’s gone to, **I can only conclude that Starving Artist is a kid fucker,** and is defending Paterno out of a sense of loyalty to the kid fucker brotherhood.

No doubt about it. SA is so obviously a child rapist that I frankly cannot believe he hasn’t been banned from this site. All his fantasies about ‘naked bear hugs with little boys, giving them lessons in showering, nude wrestling, playing hide the soap games, etc’ are fucking nauseating. With him on board, it’s hard to differentiate the SDMB from the NAMBLA forum.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3169 "2012-02-17T05:03:30Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Nope, let me refresh your memory (with my proper responses included):  
> Nope, I’m not like that and I’ve said absolutely nothing to make a rational person make such a claim, so…
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> Winning!
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> Nope, not little and not a pussy. I’ll grant YMMV on the “son of a bitch” part. So…
> 
> Winning!  
> Winning!

Clearly “Winning” is yet another one of his little code words meaning “I’m a child rapist”.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3170 "2012-02-17T05:03:39Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> It annoys you because it is obviously Starving Pederast’s little euphemism for “I have to go rape a little boy!”.

Winning!

> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> We ALL know what he really means.

Winning

> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> What a sick motherfucker.

Reported.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3171 "2012-02-17T05:06:15Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> General Lo Sings Boned Chicken!
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> But that one point, how it would be impossible for a grown man to bugger a little boy? That means all those priests didn’t do it! Unless, of course, it was a miracle…

“Don’t worry, if Father Dave tries anything you don’t like, just remain standing and face away from him and you’ll be perfectly fine.”

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3172 "2012-02-17T05:06:40Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Winning!
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> Winning
> 
> Reported.

Hmmm dinner must be getting cold! Either that or he’s bound and gagged.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3173 "2012-02-17T05:07:46Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> No doubt about it. SA is so obviously a child rapist that I frankly cannot believe he hasn’t been banned from this site. All his fantasies about ‘naked bear hugs with little boys, giving them lessons in showering, nude wrestling, playing hide the soap games, etc’ are fucking nauseating. With him on board, it’s hard to differentiate the SDMB from the NAMBLA forum.

Nope, not fantasies. Merely alternative possibilities to explain what was almost certainly not anal rape.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3174 "2012-02-17T05:12:04Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> Clearly “Winning” is yet another one of his little code words meaning “I’m a child rapist”.

Winning!

(Boy, you guys are really keeping me busy. The lies are flyimg like snowflakes in a blizzard. I’m gonna have to write a macro. :D)

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3175 "2012-02-17T05:13:11Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> Clearly “Winning” is yet another one of his little code words meaning “I’m a child rapist”.

Winning!

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3176 "2012-02-17T05:14:47Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> It annoys you because it is obviously Starving Pederast’s little euphemism for “I have to go rape a little boy!”.
> 
> “I have to go Christmas Shopping”, “I have to go cook chicken and dumplings”,“I’m running down to the 711 to get some chocolate covered cherries”, " Dinner’s ready!"
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> We ALL know what he really means. What a sick motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3177 "2012-02-17T05:23:52Z")

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Thread synopsis:

**SA** : You know, there is not a shred of evidence to prove your allegations that Joe Paterno sought to cover up McQueary’s report, or that he knew of and/or enabled Sandusky’s raping of children, or that he allowed it in order to protect the university. Also, a closer look at the facts makes it highly unlikely that what McQueary saw was actually anal rape.

**Anti-Paterno crowd** : Liar! Dumbass! Pedophile/pedophile enabler! Sicko. Conservative! Old guy!

:: high fives all around :: “Boy, we really proved that asshole was full of shit, didn’t we!?”

**SA** : :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3178 "2012-02-17T05:24:54Z")

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**Gfactor** , why hasn’t **Starving Artist** gotten warned for all those graphic descriptions of child rape here? Or is that completely kosher now?

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Nope, let me refresh your memory (with my proper responses included):  
> Nope, I’m not like that and I’ve said absolutely nothing to make a rational person make such a claim, so…
> 
> Winning!
> 
> Nope, not little and not a pussy. I’ll grant YMMV on the “son of a bitch” part. So…
> 
> Winning!  
> Winning!

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([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14735230&postcount=194](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14735230&postcount=194)):

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> Well, if the price of their willingness to come forward is that we throw due process out the window, then that’ not a trade-off that I’m convinced is in the best interest of either society or justice. How. Would you like to be convicted, torn from your family, sent to prison and be labelled a sex offender for the rest of you life on nothing but the word of a small child? Children often don’t realize the significance of what they’re saying may make things sound different than they mean, plus they’re highly suggestible. It would be easy for the police, a prosecuter, vindictive ex-wife or other enemy of some sort to have people imprisoned and labeled a sex offender on nothing but a child’s word, not to mention on the strength of superficial appearances. Due process is there for very good reasons.

If you told something like that to a child, do you think they would feel comfortable telling you they were molested? Think about it. IF they were actually, truly molested, do you think they would feel they could trust you, if they heard you say that?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3179 "2012-02-17T05:32:37Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> **Gfactor** , why hasn’t **Starving Artist** gotten warned for all those graphic descriptions of child rape here? Or is that completely kosher now?

Because they aren’t graphic descriptions of child rape, you hysterical moron. They’re graphic descriptions of why it most likely couldn’t have been child anal rape.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> If you told something like that to a child, do you think they would feel comfortable telling you they were molested? Think about it. IF they were actually, truly molested, do you think they would feel they could trust you, if they heard you say that?

Who said anything about saying that to a child? I thought we were having a discussion among [quasi] adults here.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3180 "2012-02-17T05:36:51Z")

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So how would you react if your child came to you and told you he/she had been molested?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/3181 "2012-02-17T05:50:08Z")

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I’d want the crime determined, proper charges brought, and the bad guy tried, convicted and jailed.

Now having said that, why do you keep asking this and what the hell difference does it make. Is it your belief that if my child were molested the proper response would be to make up the worst thing I could and accuse him of that…and that this response is understandable, expected and justified?

You’re a loon, **Guin**. If you ever get called up for jury duty I hope you’ll have enough integrity to show the judge this thread and point out to him which posts are yours. You’ll have a Get Out Of Jury Duty Free card for sure.

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