# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 219
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4363 "2012-09-25T16:46:27Z")
These “I’m leaving… no, I’m not” posts really diminishes the grand, trampling exit effect you’re aiming for, SA. Now you’re like somebody stuck in a revolving door. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4364 "2012-09-25T16:51:50Z")
Maybe it was a really small lake. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4365 "2012-09-25T16:56:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, not to get into a fresh argument with you, but to the best of my recollection I never said it did. I said their verdict vindicated the conclusion I arrived at, and I conincidentally asserted the elements that caused me to arrive at that conclusion. I have no recollection of having said that the jury engaged in any specific thought experiment which agreed with mine. ISTR that you did, but it makes no difference whether you explicitly did or didn’t. Because what people here are ridiculing (at least at this time) is that specific argument, and if the jury didn’t support that, then they don’t support you WRT the current topic of conversation, while you’re at least implying that they did. > [@](#): > > On the other hand to let it lie unchallenged can seem to lend it an air of acknowledged credibility. Suck it up. Or not - that’s just my advice FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4366 "2012-09-25T17:06:57Z")
As I have mentioned before in other threads, I am a Special Victims Unit Detective (in real life, not TV). I have investigated numerous sexual assault cases. Many including children as victims. I have interviewed victims and suspects. I have secured many convictions. And in my professional opinion Starving Artist is a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4367 "2012-09-25T17:17:35Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > These “I’m leaving… no, I’m not” posts really diminishes the grand, trampling exit effect you’re aiming for, SA. Now you’re like somebody stuck in a revolving door. Look kids! Big Ben! Parliament too. I also feel that anyone who has replied 459 times to a single thread, or 1 out of every 9 comments, is no longer afforded the luxury of using reply 460 to say “look guys how much of a life I have. Unlike you losers in this thread.” Unless it’s in a vain attempt to convince himself of what he’s saying. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4368 "2012-09-25T17:36:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And that, **Kimstu** , is what I said and who I was talking about when I said it. Like I said: > [@Kimstu](#): > > You keep throwing out ridiculously over-the-top exaggerated statements and then later trying to pretend that they’re equivalent to more reasonable moderate statements. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4369 "2012-09-25T17:42:43Z")
Like **Kimstu** , I have comprehensively reviewed this thread (or cursorily skimmed through it, whichever you’ll believe) and I have come to an important conclusion. And that is: I am hilarious. I mean, really fucking funny. I had myself in tears all over again. I ought to be charging you all for this stuff. It’s A material and I’m just giving it away! What’s nearly as remarkable is how much you all are able to appreciate it all silently, without a bunch of gratuitous comments about how very funny I am. Kudos to you all. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4370 "2012-09-25T18:02:48Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > As I have mentioned before in other threads, I am a Special Victims Unit Detective (in real life, not TV). I have investigated numerous sexual assault cases. Many including children as victims. I have interviewed victims and suspects. I have secured many convictions. And in my professional opinion Starving Artist is a fucking idiot. In my amateur opinion, for purposes of the issue at hand, the credentials you describe in post #4309 are more relevant than the credentials you describe here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4371 "2012-09-25T18:21:57Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > In my amateur opinion, for purposes of the issue at hand, the credentials you describe in post #4309 are more relevant than the credentials you describe here. 🙂 I only have certificates to prove one set of credentials. I’ll leave it to others to decide which I am talking about. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4372 "2012-09-25T18:40:50Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Frankly you are beginning to show some of the same flaws in reading comprehension as some of the other posters, though not in as far out a way. But some of the things you’re saying I’ve said do not mesh with what I’ve actually said, and that is troubling to me. I’m beginning to wonder if it’s possible to be properly understood here at all. This is pretty entertaining. With how conservative and careful FP has been to remain very close to what is provable vs not, and explicitly describing opinion as opinion…I think this speaks more to your thinking and posting than to FP’s comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4373 "2012-09-25T19:27:01Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And now I’m off for a bike ride around the lake and other worthwhile occupations. I’m afraid you’ll have to call yourselves idiots for the rest of the day. Jesus Christ. You incorrectly announce your departure so much that it’s become a fucking tic. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4374 "2012-09-25T20:54:49Z")
It could be worse. I could be trying to claim someone got shot when he only got robbed and using it to blame Ronald Reagan and the NRA for people getting murdered. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4375 "2012-09-25T22:09:00Z")
Any guess who will be the last poster in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4376 "2012-09-25T22:16:20Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Any guess who will be the last poster in this thread? Me? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4377 "2012-09-25T22:18:37Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Any guess who will be the last poster in this thread? I vote **Miller**. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4378 "2012-09-25T22:23:27Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > I vote **Miller**. NOOOOOOO!!! It is supposed to be me!!! Let me have this small piece of SDMB fame. please? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4379 "2012-09-25T22:23:50Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Any guess who will be the last poster in this thread? Can’t be **Skevee** – he is always leaving. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4380 "2012-09-25T23:02:30Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Any guess who will be the last poster in this thread? Depends on who’s still around for the heat death of the Universe. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4381 "2012-09-25T23:05:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It could be worse. I could be trying to claim someone got shot when he only got robbed and using it to blame Ronald Reagan and the NRA for people getting murdered. This doesn’t make sense even within the context of your own arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4382 "2012-09-25T23:19:38Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > This doesn’t make sense even within the context of your own arguments. Well, if you line up 100 Ronald Reagans and ask them if they’d rather get shot or raped… I think you can see how it relates. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=218) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=220)