# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 220
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4383 "2012-09-25T23:20:21Z")
Holy shit. I just checked in to this thread for the first time in weeks (months, maybe) and lo and behold, **SA** rose from the dead! I have to admit that of all the ways that people become infamous on the Dope, “apologist for pedophilia by way of paper towel tube fucking” should win some kind of prize. Hal Briston’s sheep thing is nowhere near. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4384 "2012-09-26T00:41:02Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I have to admit that of all the ways that people become infamous on the Dope, “apologist for pedophilia by way of paper towel tube fucking” should win some kind of prize. Hal Briston’s sheep thing is nowhere near. Well, of course not. It’s physically impossible for a grown man to fuck a sheep from the standing position. Here, try it yourself. Take a paper towel tube, like so… ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4385 "2012-09-26T00:51:09Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In the shower room incident, McQueary’s otherwise detailed description of what he saw, the positions of the two people, what they did, what he did, etc. gives not a hint that the boy was in any sort of distress at all, let alone pain or even physical discomfort. Are you asserting that McQueary saw the entire incident, from start to finish? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4386 "2012-09-26T01:24:07Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well, of course not. It’s physically impossible for a grown man to fuck a sheep from the standing position. Here, try it yourself. Take a paper towel tube, like so… Lambs. You’d need a lamb. Or to be exact, a hundred of them. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4387 "2012-09-26T01:30:48Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Any guess who will be the last poster in this thread? It’ll be **SA** , saying “I’ll be right back.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4388 "2012-09-26T02:20:54Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Are you asserting that McQueary saw the entire incident, from start to finish? SA can claim anything he wishes. He is always right. Facts be damned! “So great is his certainty that mere facts cannot shake it.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4389 "2012-09-26T03:06:29Z")
Now if you’ll excuse me once again, I’m overdue to participate in an activity that suggests I am a normal, healthy, not-at-all demented man in control of all his faculties, who scarcely thinks of this thread at all, let alone how its participants view me! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4390 "2012-09-26T03:18:47Z")
I am repeating a question that **Vinyl Turnip** has failed to address. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4391 "2012-09-26T04:08:44Z")
I am repeating verbatim a point I have made, and that has been thoroughly rebutted, at least a hundred and thirty-five times in this thread, then declaring myself the winner. Again. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4392 "2012-09-26T04:26:18Z")
I’m posting some irrelevant snark. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4393 "2012-09-26T04:56:59Z")
Winning!!! ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4394 "2012-09-26T06:00:46Z")
You guys are not giving SA due process. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4395 "2012-09-26T06:06:28Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > What _are_ the going rates for remedial reading courses these days, anyway? I dunno. What _are_ they charging you? You’re probably getting ripped at the price you’re paying. In fact, certainly, you’re getting ripped, since it isn’t doing any good… ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4396 "2012-09-26T11:49:11Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I am repeating verbatim a point I have made, and that has been thoroughly rebutted, at least a hundred and thirty-five times in this thread, then declaring myself the winner. Again. Do we never learn? Rebuttals are what got Sandusky into trouble in the first place! ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4397 "2012-09-26T17:24:37Z")
Witch hunts, liberal Hollywood, posting to message boards is worse than Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4398 "2012-09-26T18:06:41Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Do we never learn? Rebuttals are what got Sandusky into trouble in the first place! Well, the original buttals were a problem as well. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4399 "2012-09-27T04:42:30Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > I’m posting some irrelevant snark. I’m popping in for a drive-by quip that adds nothing to the intellectual rigor of the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4400 "2012-09-27T11:23:52Z")
:shakes his head at the train wreck, sighs, then moves on: ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4401 "2012-09-27T12:38:12Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I’m popping in for a drive-by quip that adds nothing to the intellectual rigor of the discussion. Hey, that’s my job, dammit! ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4402 "2012-09-27T13:29:03Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > :shakes his head at the train wreck, sighs, then moves on: It was a train wreck last year, then it was just people sifting through the debris for the past 6 months. When SA showed back up to remove all doubt, it turned into scrap metal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=219) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=221)