# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 223
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4443 "2012-09-27T20:56:35Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I very carefully didn’t applaud at this, but it was a close thing. Kudos to me! It’s just so nice to be almost appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4444 "2012-09-27T21:11:51Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Hey Starving Artist, can you run us through the paper towel tube test one more time? And while you are at it let us know your opinion on the whole Lion vs Tiger debate. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4445 "2012-09-27T23:08:22Z")
He’s definitely in the [lion camp](http://theresjustonemommy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/cardboard-tube-lion.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4446 "2012-09-27T23:12:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, you see that’s the thing about **SA**. When he’s on a public message board, where he’s a member paid in full, he’s gonna post pretty much when and if he wants. Sometimes he intends to leave and he changes his mind. Other times he intends to leave and somebody posts fresh bullshit he doesn’t want to let lie. Other times still he just decides it’s a more engaging way to spend his time to continue to do battle with the nitwits. It can be a lot of things. But one thing you can count on – it will be what it is. Yep, he’s saying that since he pays for the board, he can do anything he wants.! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4447 "2012-09-27T23:26:09Z")
> [@The\_Dord](#): > > Yep, he’s saying that since he pays for the board, he can do anything he wants.! I’m going to take a dump. I will be back in 20. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4448 "2012-09-28T00:03:53Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Moving on does not necessarily mean moving out. 🙂 Yeah, tell that to my ex-GF. I’m still sleeping on the sofa! [::rimshot::](http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4449 "2012-09-28T15:01:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, apart from the Dumas thing, that post was merely a correction. > > And the Dumas thing was sufficiently amusing to me, and, as you might imagine, that’s what counts. 😉 you! you! UPSTART! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4450 "2012-09-28T16:39:08Z")
> [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](#): > > I’m going to take a dump. I will be back in 20. It’s been a while, what kind of dump was it? Can it fit through a paper tube roll or not? ---
**Author:** ![Bartman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Bartman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bartman)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4451 "2012-09-28T18:47:30Z")
You know it may be time to finally lock this thread. It doesn’t seem to have any recreational outrage purpose any longer. There is no information sharing going on. Even the mockery of **Starving Artist** is getting old and tired. And **SA** himself has moved into some sort of self parody. He’s turned pathetic and sad rather than an entertaining train wreck. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4452 "2012-09-28T21:13:24Z")
Sorry, but you’re quite wrong about **SA**. He’s revelling in the fact that none of the idiotic allegations about Joe Paterno which gave rise to this thread have come to pass; that all he ever knew about was a hugging incident two years prior which was investigated and dropped; and that the hideous crime he was supposed to have known about and covered up for, thus allowing it to continue for the next ten years, was found not to have happened by a jury of the real miscreant’s peers. So all is good with me…uh, him. Besides, Victim #1 has a book coming out and **Guinastasia** , **miss lizzy** and **Hector the Librarian** are going to need someplace to express the outrage they’ll experience upon pouring over every salacious and perverted detail. As for me, I plan to remain blissfully ignorant, as apart from defending concepts like due process and people like Joe Paterno, I have no interest whatever in the details of that kind of activity. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4453 "2012-09-28T21:20:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Besides, Victim #1 has a book coming out and **Guinastasia** , **miss lizzy** and **Hector the Librarian** are going to need someplace to express the outrage they’ll experience upon pouring over every salacious and perverted detail. As for me, I plan to remain blissfully ignorant, as apart from defending concepts like due process and people like Joe Paterno, I have no interest whatever in the details of that kind of activity. We’ll be reading the book as a harrowing personal account of a young man and his trauma. You’ll be reading it as a how-to book. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4454 "2012-09-28T21:52:07Z")
Starving Artist: I plan to remain blissfully ignorant. This pretty much sums up your life’s mantra, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4455 "2012-09-28T21:55:34Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Besides, Victim #1 has a book coming out and **Guinastasia** , **miss lizzy** and **Hector the Librarian** are going to need someplace to express the outrage they’ll experience upon pouring over every salacious and perverted detail. Poring, you insufferable oaf. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4456 "2012-09-28T21:58:32Z")
You’re the ones who find phrases like “Line up 100 boys” to be sexually suggestive and sallacious even when the context clearly isn’t, so perhaps you’ll forgive me if I suspect that by ‘harrowing’ you really mean something else. And since reading comprehension seems not to be your strong suit, I’ll repeat: I won’t be reading the book at all. Uh, yeah, poring. My bad. Posting hastily from an iPod and all that. The points remain. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4457 "2012-09-28T21:59:53Z")
89.98 pages?! That’s it, I’m outta here. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4458 "2012-09-28T22:09:42Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Starving Artist: I plan to remain blissfully ignorant. > This pretty much sums up your life’s mantra, doesn’t it? Oh, I don’t know. I managed to peg things regarding Joe Paterno, the Penn State administration and the shower room incident far more accurately than the vast majority of this thread’s other posters, now, didn’t I? You might want to attribute that to nothing but luck, but I contend that a fair amount of sophistication and knowledge gained through life experience was required to argue against and put the lie to all your nonsense. But I say that in the nicest way possible. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4459 "2012-09-28T22:14:18Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > [Starving Artist observing.](https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/visual-and-auditory-distoration-tip-31.jpg) I couldn’t stifle the laugh reflex and ended up disturbing my co-workers. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4460 "2012-09-28T22:45:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, I don’t know. I managed to peg things regarding Joe Paterno, the Penn State administration and the shower room incident far more accurately than the vast majority of this thread’s other posters, now, didn’t I? You might want to attribute that to nothing but luck, but I contend that a fair amount of sophistication and knowledge gained through life experience was required to argue against and put the lie to all your nonsense. Please, stop, I can’t take it any more, my ribs hurt!! I shouldn’t laugh any more for at least the next 5 posts. Why, even my pointing finger is tired! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4461 "2012-09-28T22:54:53Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, I don’t know. I managed to peg things regarding Joe Paterno, the Penn State administration and the shower room incident far more accurately than the vast majority of this thread’s other posters, now, didn’t I? You might want to attribute that to nothing but luck, but I contend that a fair amount of sophistication and knowledge gained through life experience was required to argue against and put the lie to all your nonsense. Never attribute to skill that which can be adequately explained by luck. And never attribute to luck that which relies on complete and utter denial. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4462 "2012-09-28T23:39:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, I don’t know. I managed to peg things… And this is post #4451, which means it’ll be at the top of the page every time it opens. So it’ll be mocking you until we hit #4501. And tickling our funny bones. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=222) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=224)