# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 243
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4843 "2012-10-03T20:03:13Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > _“and not only did they find the threads they created unwelcome by the mods…”_ > > AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! > > And so we mark another one down in the “ **Starving Artist was right!** ” column! > > Hoo, hoo, boy…the hits, they just keep on coming! > > I’m out of here, bozos! 😃 Kind of like your “Will you mods stop people from being mean to me?” thread in ATMB a few weeks ago, eh? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4844 "2012-10-03T20:15:11Z")
Damn, closed before i could vote - well, add one to the “participated…disagree with SA” column, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4845 "2012-10-03T20:21:43Z")
Well, we can still improvise a poll, if we want. PA: Participated in thread, agreed with Starving Artist. NA: No participation, agreed. PD: Participated, disagreed. ND: No participation, disagreed. PN: Participated, neither agreed nor disagreed. NN: No participation, neither agreed nor disagreed. I’ll vote, bringing the running total to: PA: 0 NA: 0 PD: 1 ND: 0 PN: 0 NN: 0 Anyone who wishes to weigh in is invited to add their vote to said total and include the updated results in their post, to be updated by those that follow. You’ll all have to be on your honour to report the totals correctly and vote only once, and it’s your responsibility to read the categories correctly (i.e. the Palm Beach County rule). ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4846 "2012-10-03T20:25:19Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > What Idle said was that I’m free to pit you. I don’t want to pit you. It would be like taking candy from a baby. And, with you in this analogy being a baby, I’m afraid you’d use it to justify fucking yourself. Which is more than I could handle, frankly. If you change your mind, I volunteer to tally the votes. Sorry, Bryan. I missed your post. ---
**Author:** ![Mapache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58956e/32.png) [@Mapache](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mapache)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4847 "2012-10-03T20:29:24Z")
And another who hasn’t participated but has read all 97 pages (mostly so I could point and laugh at SA, except that I didn’t laugh much, being too disgusted) and finds SA to be a blithering egocentric idiot at best. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4848 "2012-10-03T20:32:27Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m out of here, bozos! 😃 I take him at his word. I believe he will not be back. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4849 "2012-10-03T20:33:06Z")
\*\*NoLittlePlans \*\*will be so disappointed when he finds out. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4850 "2012-10-03T20:33:45Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > If you think this is all about you, fine. Some of us still believe the central issue of this thread is that Joe Paterno’s inaction (or deliberate cover-up) allowed a child molester to remain free for ten years and claim at least one more victim. Nah. The fact that Joe Paterno covered for a child rapist is a given. That’s why he was fired, had his statue removed, his NCAA wins vacated, and will FOREVER be known as moral failure who allowed countless little boys to be raped because he thought football was more important. He is lucky that cancer took him out before charges could be filed (coward!). _This_ thread is about watching Starving Artist prove to everyone that he is either a child rapist himself or the most illogical retard in the history of the board 😃 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4851 "2012-10-03T20:40:36Z")
PA: Participated in thread, agreed with Starving Artist. NA: No participation, agreed. PD: Participated, disagreed. ND: No participation, disagreed. PN: Participated, neither agreed nor disagreed. NN: No participation, neither agreed nor disagreed. Adding **Mapache** and my votes: PA: 0 NA: 0 PD: 2 ND: 1 PN: 0 NN: 0 ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4852 "2012-10-03T20:44:20Z")
Should we do this in another thread? It would be less convoluted, and we could tally the votes of the folks who are avoiding this trainwreck. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4853 "2012-10-03T20:44:22Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It appears to me that to whatever ridiculous lengths I may be going, fifteen or twenty frothers are dashing along right beside me, nipping furiously and impotently at my heels. Maybe that should be telling you something? Honestly, when you are convinced you’re right and essentially no one agrees, odds are your reasoning is off a tad. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4854 "2012-10-03T20:59:01Z")
Participated, disagreed. SA has always been a fucking worthless idiot, but this thread has shown that he is a disgusting and creepy little man as well. This is the thread that convinced me to put him on ignore, a decision which has made me very happy indeed. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4855 "2012-10-03T21:00:01Z")
Mark me for PD. I love it that he’s belittling us in the ATMB thread saying that we aren’t using logic and we are using our “emotions” in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4856 "2012-10-03T21:14:42Z")
Since a poll about this very topic has been closed in IMHO with the added suggestion that it’d be taken to the Pit, I am doing just that. These are the original choices: \*\*A-I have participated in the thread and I AGREE with Starving Artist’s arguments. B-I have participated in the thread and I DISAGREE with Starving Artist’s arguments. C-I have NOT participated in the thread and I AGREE with Starving Artist’s arguments. D-I have NOT participated in the thread and I DISAGREE with Starving Artist’s arguments. \*\* I do want to make clear that choices **“C” & “D”** implicitly state – in THIS poll – that you have at least read enough of the thread in question to know the position taken by The Undefeated King Of Encores, Mr. **StarvingArtist**. Any & all are welcome to tally the (running) total. Please try to keep your responses down to the bare minimum as I’d like this to be just that, a poll, and not a rehash of the original thread. If there are no objections, I’d like this thread to close by 6:00 P.M. this Friday, October 5th. * * * That said, my vote is **B** ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4857 "2012-10-03T21:18:34Z")
Here you go, **Starvin’** …and yes, I’ve already asked for a correction of the sp mistake. [**Starving “Paper Tube” Artist. Right or worng?**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15552677#post15552677) Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4858 "2012-10-03T21:18:48Z")
Link? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4859 "2012-10-03T21:19:56Z")
Might help if you describe what SA’s “arguments” are. That whole thread was kinda like that homeless guy yelling on the street corner: I’m sure he’s absolutely convinced he’s right and that’s he’s making a point, but I’ll be damned if I understand it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4860 "2012-10-03T21:20:23Z")
Voting for **B**. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4861 "2012-10-03T21:20:46Z")
Link to original thread: [**It’s time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=630580) ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4862 "2012-10-03T21:23:12Z")
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