# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 248
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4943 "2012-10-04T02:37:07Z")
Yes, and opening a separate thread in the pit was exactly what another mod instructed. ETA: I was agreeing with Enola Gay. Now it’s impossible to follow the fucking poll, which is about SA, not Joe Paterno. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4944 "2012-10-04T02:41:37Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Yes, and opening a separate thread in the pit was exactly what another mod instructed. > > ETA: I was agreeing with Enola Gay. Now it’s impossible to follow the fucking poll, which is about SA, not Joe Paterno. I really have no idea what to say. I usually agree with Miller’s modding. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4945 "2012-10-04T02:44:48Z")
Me too. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4946 "2012-10-04T02:48:38Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I really have no idea what to say. I usually agree with Miller’s modding. I’m baffled too. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4947 "2012-10-04T02:50:26Z")
All those people who picked D now have to pick B. BTW. I pick B. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4948 "2012-10-04T02:54:43Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Yes, and opening a separate thread in the pit was exactly what another mod instructed. > > ETA: I was agreeing with Enola Gay. Now it’s impossible to follow the fucking poll, which is about SA, not Joe Paterno. I rarely, if ever, comment on mod actions but I, too, find this thread-merge baffling since it was suggested by another mod. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4949 "2012-10-04T03:02:22Z")
Well so much for following mod instructions – have no fucking clue why this was merged. Topics are only tangentially related, which is why quite a few poster that do NOT follow this cesspool of a thread voiced their opinion prior to the bullshit merger. Fuckin hate typing on tablets…more later ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4950 "2012-10-04T03:05:11Z")
WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Bartman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Bartman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bartman)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4951 "2012-10-04T03:20:17Z")
But it has gotten us that much closer to 100 pages… :puking\_smilie: ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4952 "2012-10-04T03:43:37Z")
> [@Bartman](#): > > But it has gotten us that much closer to 100 pages… :puking\_smilie: Thank you for reinstating my long suppressed memory of SA’s fantasy of “lining up 100 boys” ☹ ETA: I too think Miller is the bomb. I can only surmise that his judgement is impaired since he premeditated before the presidential debates (understandably so). ---
**Author:** ![NoLittlePlans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoLittlePlans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoLittlePlans)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4953 "2012-10-04T03:54:14Z")
How soon we all forget: 11/5/11: Penn State coach Joe PATERNO PRAISED for acting appropriately in REPORTING Jerry SANDUSKY sex abuse suspicionshttp://bit.ly/VxrN8R ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4954 "2012-10-04T03:57:06Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > Thank you for reinstating my long suppressed memory of SA’s fantasy of “lining up 100 boys” ☹ > > ETA: I too think Miller is the bomb. I can only surmise that his judgement is impaired since he premeditated before the presidential debates (understandably so). premeditated = preMEDICATED. I did not “meditate” before the debates, but I did have a few cocktails. I suspect Miller did the same. He’s only human. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4955 "2012-10-04T04:03:52Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > I’ve merged **RedFury** ’s pseudo-poll with this thread, as I don’t see any point in maintaining two separate threads on the same interminable subject. > [/Moderating] **SA** : [again] “and not only did they find the threads they created unwelcome by the mods…” AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And so we mark another one down in the “Starving Artist was right!” column! Hoo, hoo, boy…the hits, they just keep on coming! 'Atta boy, **Red**! 😉 As for **Red’s** thread in toto – about the same ratio of disagreement I usually draw, I’d say. I did think it was amusing how **Red** attempted to convince everyone he was starting the thread to disprove my claim that legions of readers agreed with me but were to timid to say so when in truth: a.) I never said more than that it was possible not everyone disagreed with me as some might agree but be reluctant to join the fray. **Drunken Fury** is welcome to provide a cite to back up his assertion and disprove mine if he can. b.) The real motive is that this thread’s posters are absolutely furious that events have proven me correct with regard to Joe Paterno and Mike McQueary’s testimony. Paterno has not remotely been shown to have known Sandusky was raping children, nor that he knowingly covered it up and allowed it to continue for the next ten years. Same with Penn State itself. And Mike McQueary’s testimony has proven inadequate to support a conclusion of rape by a jury of his peers. These are facts. They are incontrovertible and unassailable. They are also what I’ve been saying all through this thread. So, I win. Everyone else who’s insisted otherwise has been proven wrong. Over and over again, no matter which tactic they try or what angle they try to attack it from. And. that. pisses. them. right. off! So, after many days and posts spent flailing about trying to find some way or some thing to prove me wrong about, they seized upon the idea of trying to salve their wounded pride and considerable frustration by trying to get the rest of the board to line up with them in their disagreement with me…a disagreement they still could not prove. Thus, the poll attempt that was closed, and the pseudo poll attempt that eventually wound up here. All in a failed attempt to find a solace in numbers that the facts would not allow. But it doesn’t matter! Every one of the teeming millions could swear on whatever they find swearable that I am as wrong as it’s possible to be for as many reasons as is possible to be wrong, and the facts I listed will still remain inviolate. You cannot win! Period! How many times have I told you that? Give it up! The more you try, the more opportunities I have to reassert that you’re wrong. And I revel in those opportunities, for you have picked a fight you did not expect with a driven opponent whose motivations you do not understand, and I will happily continue to rub your faces in your well deserved defeat for as long as you want to try to pretend you ever knew what you were talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4956 "2012-10-04T04:04:53Z")
> [@The\_Dord](#): > > You should get your **socks** cleaned. Guarantee he’s posting via a proxy server. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4957 "2012-10-04T04:10:33Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I rarely, if ever, comment on mod actions but I, too, find this thread-merge baffling since it was suggested by another mod. I can think of two possible reasons: 1. Miller wasn’t aware of Idle Thought’s post 2. Miller was aware of it and still felt the threads should be merged I don’t think it’s a big deal either way (I’m a “B”, obviously) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4958 "2012-10-04T04:13:48Z")
Okay, people, we’re coming up on 100 pages and 200,000 views! Keep it up, I know you can do it! ETA: Yay! I just put us over the top on pages! Whooopy! ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4959 "2012-10-04T04:15:12Z")
Aaaaaand HAPPY 100th PAGE everyone! Wow, what an achievement. I’d like to thank all the little people, without whom this thread would have been impossible. …wow, that joke was in poor taste. Oh well this whole thread is in poor taste. Everyone, a toaste. Raise your tubes high… to **SA**! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4960 "2012-10-04T04:17:41Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > Guarantee he’s posting via a proxy server. and its too bad he’ll probably never get in trouble for it, but if he did it would be the end! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4961 "2012-10-04T04:18:32Z")
OH GOD DAMMIT! FUCK YOU SA… YOU NINJAED THE ONE FUN MOMENT IN THIS ASSHOLE CARNIVAL FOR IDIOTS. Grrrrr, I’m the most mad I’ve ever been at you! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4962 "2012-10-04T04:21:47Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > Aaaaaand HAPPY 100th PAGE everyone! > > Wow, what an achievement. I’d like to thank all the little people, without whom this thread would have been impossible. > > …wow, that joke was in poor taste. Oh well this whole thread is in poor taste. Everyone, a toaste. Raise your tubes high… to **SA**! Thank you! Thank you! Oh, my gosh! I…I hardly know what to say! **miss elizabeth, lady foxfyre, Guinnypoo** …oh, good Heavens…there are just so many airheaded idiots out there whose wildly off the mark imaginations have made this all possible! Again, I just don’t know what to say! Thank you! Thank you so very, very, very, very, much! :: exits sobbing…well, not really, conservatives don’t sob…but really, really happy :: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=247) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=249)